Time to say goodbye .... almost

[craig3.2]

After much deliberation,I am planning making 2017 my last year on the Forum,after I have done the few planned meets and National in 2017.

Been on here a wee while,and met some lovely people,but I now understand why other previous forum and meet regulars have left here over the years,after having grief or disagreements with people but.

I will not name names,but the 1 or 2 individuals who have made me feel like I can't enjoy being on here,and worked against me at meets and said s**t behind my back while being everyone else's best friend is making me sick to my stomach at the falseness of it.

I have been trying to keep a low profile,but it's hard when I have enjoyed this forum for many years and many meets....

But this sht s getting to me.....
The only reason I am posting this is that I would rather not just disappear after next year's meets (I already have well into the planning stage), so hopefully see some of you at meets in 2017.

It's been fun for 10 years anyway

 

[buzyg]

That's not good to read. I hope the rest of us can convince you to consider staying on a while longer Craig. Sounds like we have some time at least, to demonstrate that the many good folk here are worth ignoring the occasional idiot for. Time will tell. Hears to a good 2017 for you and yours.

 

[Highlander]

Haven't we covered this in a previous thread....it didn't make good reading then so doubtful this will end much better.......just seems detrimental to forum equilibrium.
I try my hardest not to judge people in day to day life ( or at least keep my feelings to myself) so won't be reading any more on this thread........just my thoughts for what they're worth.

 

[Mr Tidy]

Haven't we covered this in a previous thread....it didn't make good reading then so doubtful this will end much better.......just seems detrimental to forum equilibrium.
I try my hardest not to judge people in day to day life ( or at least keep my feelings to myself) so won't be reading any more on this thread........just my thoughts for what they're worth.

I don't recall seeing the other threads, but this seems such a shame.

But it's your call OP - all the best.

 

[Taz]

This is a shame Craig. For what it's worth I think you're a good guy and you put a lot of work in organising the national.

 

[Geezah]

Sad to hear you feel that way Craig, you have contributed hugely to my enjoyment of my Zed and we always enjoy your company. You always go out of your way to ensure everyone has a good time and it is very much appreciated.

So, what I'm trying to say is, I along with many others will be sorry to see you go, so stay!

 

[bladeowner]

Hi Craig, that would be a shame. I don't know what's been said but I know that criticism can be disheartening if it's not warranted and especially when you put a lot of effort in and spend a lot of free time organising.
Surely though the fact that the people attend time after time means that most people who attend the national enjoy the weekend / day or else they wouldn't come at all.
I hope when you reflect on the posts here that you reconsider.

 

[maxman]

Sorry to hear this,I've only met you once in N.Wales and you made me feel at home on my first meet.
You will be missed when you leave.

 

[original guvnor]

Craig,

It would be a shame to see you depart. You've given a lot to this Forum and there's lots of us who've enjoyed great days/weekends out and met new friends all because of the effort you (and Sammy Z) put in. I've personally enjoyed meeting you and getting to know you on the various Nationals I've attended.

But ultimately in all of these sorts of things you need to trust your gut instinct. If you've had enough of all the shenanigans then life's too short. Leave them to it. It will be their loss.

 

[Number5]

Craig,
I've never met you, spoken to you, or even attended one of your meets, so this is a totally unbiased post purely based on what I've read and hopefully offering you some wise advice.

A lot of people on here have something good to say about you and on the other hand a tiny few obviously haven't, But you are not doing yourself any good raising this every few weeks.

I can understand you reacting to something previously said in a post, and expressing your view, but not starting a fresh post of your own and raking all the past up again when it had adequately settled weeks back. To be honest, postng this at 11pm suggests to me that you've come home late after a few pints, felt a little bit down about something and then let your keyboard get the better of you, in the hope of gaining some sympathy. (If thats the case, I would be feeling a right plonker this morning !)

So, do yourself and everyone else a favour. If you're going to leave the forum, then leave. If you're going to stay (and organise the National, etc), then stay, but you cant keep coming on here regularly throwing your toys out of the pram and threatening to leave in six months time ! It just drags the whole forum into a divisive, mud slinging debate and nobody benefits at all. People like myself who've never met you will only have a pre-judged opinion, and its not benificial should our paths ever cross.

The time has come for you to make a decision. Time for you to man up and do one thing or the other. Either leave and go now, or put the past behind you and enjoy your Zed with the rest of us. (Even if that means logging off until after Xmas and coming back in the New Year calmer and having buried your differences) But, either way, don't get drawn into a slagging match and please do not dig this up again.

Best wishes which ever you decide.
No5

 

[Donnieronnie]

Please please everyone beg me to stay...... please please please

Blah blah blah

Giving advanced warning that you may leave in 6 months.... maybe..... is quiet frankly pathetic and childish. I would expect better from a 14 year old,

Grow up

 

[wotnip]

Please please everyone beg me to stay...... please please please

Blah blah blah

Giving advanced warning that you may leave in 6 months.... maybe..... is quiet frankly pathetic and childish. I would expect better from a 14 year old,

Grow up

 

[craig3.2]

Please please everyone beg me to stay...... please please please

Blah blah blah

Giving advanced warning that you may leave in 6 months.... maybe..... is quiet frankly pathetic and childish. I would expect better from a 14 year old,

Grow up

The reason for my post was not so people would beg me to stay,but its aimed at those who have been on this forum for longer than 5 minutes,(like yourself), and who have been on here long enough to know me,one way or snother , to help me come to an informed decision about whats best to do,over something that has been going on in the background of the forum for a couple if months now ,so if you have nothing constructive to say,shut up.
Yet another keyboard warrior!!

 

[craig3.2]

Please please everyone beg me to stay...... please please please

Blah blah blah

Giving advanced warning that you may leave in 6 months.... maybe..... is quiet frankly pathetic and childish. I would expect better from a 14 year old,

Grow up

Ditto,wotnip.....
The reason for my post was as stated in my previous post,just looking for informed opinions,not begging or slagging from keyboard warriors.
Been on here as a guest since it was changed from the z4-um,back in 2007/08,until getting round to joining in 2009.....so its a regular,and enjoyable part of my life and car runs for years,but now getting grief over something that happened a while ago and is now rearing its ugly head again,causing a divisive feeling amongst some on here,caused by other peoples actions of late,not mine.

Maybe when you have been in here for years and attended lots of meets,and some s**t out of your control causes grief for you,then you will then maybe understand where i am coming from.

 

[craig3.2]

Thanks for the opinions of those who know me....as said,not looking for attention or anything.
Deliberated alot recently about what to do,as said in previous posts.....

as expected,there are always going to be folk who get at you from behind a keyboard,who have a go at folk who.leave without saying why,or just disappear,and then people wonder and talk about where they are,why they left (like some of us felt when Nosa left a while ago).....
You can't win,lol

 

[Marlon]

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

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:wink:

 

[z4pilot]

I'm reminded of Dennis Healey's first law of politics....

When in a hole stop digging

Craig, you seriously need to put your shovel down.

You may well be a wonderful person in real life, but in the narrow world of social media, you are coming across as needy, a whiner and an indecisive jerk who is eroding the fund of goodwill that some on here clearly hold for you. If you could read the posts you have made recently in a dispassionate way, I doubt you would recognise yourself.

I can't see how you recover this situation. If you go, people will just think 'good riddance', if you stay, people will think you're a bottler. Take a break, spend some time with your car, reconnect to why you come on here (presumably to enjoy yourself!) and figure out how you can co-exist in a space where, inevitably, not everyone is going to agree with your view of the world.

 

[jimmybell]

Put the keyboard down, take a break from forum life - come back when whatever is annoying you has stopped doing so.

Posts like this do basically nothing but spawn "PLEASE DONT GO" (whether genuine or just fulfilling the standard response to this), or more trolly "you're attention seeking", neither really achieve anything but waste disk space on the server.

It's sad that you're not happy, but frankly - welcome to the internet. This probably isn't the best place for help with that.

 

[Donnieronnie]

Please please everyone beg me to stay...... please please please

Blah blah blah

Giving advanced warning that you may leave in 6 months.... maybe..... is quiet frankly pathetic and childish. I would expect better from a 14 year old,

Grow up

The reason for my post was not so people would beg me to stay,but its aimed at those who have been on this forum for longer than 5 minutes,(like yourself), and who have been on here long enough to know me,one way or snother , to help me come to an informed decision about whats best to do,over something that has been going on in the background of the forum for a couple if months now ,so if you have nothing constructive to say,shut up.
Yet another keyboard warrior!!

Seriously read that back to yourself

this is an Internet forum, and as such should not be a major part of your life. It seems it is.

You cannot label everyone who thinks your erratic and attention seeking posts as a keyboard warrior

To me your dependency on the forum and strange ' I'm not part of the in crowd but desperately want to be' posts come across as attention seeking and dysfunctional. Guess what - in life not everyone likes you. I learned that when I was about 15, you still seem to be struggling with it. It's ok to not like some people and have some people not like you.

You honestly need to recognise that forums like this should be a tiny part of your life, something you do when you're bored on an evening or are having a glass full f wine and watching tv.

Take some time off and go for a few pints with your mates who enjoy your company, ignore the forum and see where your at in 6 months.

I'm sure you will label me a troll or a keyboard warrior but seriously, if your family or loved ones could read your posts would they be concerned ??

 

[TitanTim]

You're not getting rid of me!!!

Sorry if that came across as slightly attention seeking

Tim.