The break up of the UK - anyone bothered?

[Geezah]

In 10 months time, the Scots will get the vote as to whether they wish to remain in the United Kingdom. A vote for independence will see the break up of a 300 year old union.

An Englishman, I have lived in Scotland for most of my adult life and love it here. Despite its size, it really does feel like a big country.

I confess to being a bit out of touch with sentiment regarding this issue south of the border, not that those of you south will have any influence as you will be denied the chance to vote - an interesting position which deserves it's own discussion I would have thought.

Nonetheless I am interested in what the majority of the UK think about such an important issue which will have far reaching consequences for all in this island of ours. Do you want Scotland in the UK or not, and are you bothered?

Mods, would it be possible to set up a poll? Yes for Scottish independence and no to remain in the UK and a not bothered option?

 

[Adamski]

Scotland becoming independent scares the living crap out of me. You can vote governments in and out, they come and ago etc.

Independence is one thing that you can't simply reverse

 

[WLH]

Geezah, I set the poll up for you however there is a tab that allows you to do that yourself...

 

[Geezah]

Oh, thanks for that WLH, you're a diamond geezer!

 

[Oakandacorns]

As an ignorant Brit (in England and from England, if differentiating), isn't it too cold in Scotland to have it's own economy and to stand on its own, as in little manufacturing / agriculture, that sort of thing? Interesting point above about interesting England wouldn't get a vote. I'm probably speaking out of turn though because I am not offay with Scottish + England + UK economy / politics.

 

[markeg]

Another Scot, living south of the border - totally against it, and the whole issue is engineered by SNP to get as many voting for as they can. Whilst I believe the UK government is far too London/South counties biased, an independent Scotland isn't in anyone's interest.

 

[Stuart Truman]

I'd prefer Scotland to stay within the union, but I'd like to see parliaments for England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland, with a UK parliament for things that genuinely cover all countries (defence etc).

 

[gwatson]

As a Scot living in Scotland, there is no way I'll be voting yes! There are too many unanswered questions which will remain so until the independence actually kicks in. Besides, as much as British people like to moan, we have a fantastic quality of life up here, perhaps I'm in a bubble up in Aberdeen with the oil industry, I would never want to jeopardise that! We still have free university, free prescriptions etc... so some aspects are already better than England.

 

[pvr]

As a non Scot / non English person I just see this as some sort of ego trip for a politician that would like his name eternalised without having thought the whole process through. Spain has already said it would veto Euro currency entry so that would alienate Scotland even more.

I have yet to meet a single Scottish person who is in favour. The ones on TV just go on about how the oil will keep them going. Right ....

 

[ric19]

I was wondering what would happen to any Scots serving in the armed forces presumably they would have to leave to join a Scottish army/navy

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[Silverfox]

It would be a very sad day if the Union breaks up. As they say, 'united we stand, divided we fall'. Lets hope that common sense prevails

 

[cj10jeeper]

It's inevitable that from a social and cultural perspective countries and regions want independence. Look at Russia, Yugoslavia, parts of Spain, etc. and it's hardly like Scotland asked to join the UK.

Economically it would be a disaster. Scotland doesn't have the long term ability to survive alone and England would still have to support it.

Separate parliaments are just another layer of beurocracy and cost.

I'll thought through idea that I'm sure won't go forward unless in some watered down meaningless form.

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[sars]

I don't want to see a breakup, which is a purely sentimental reason, but I would like someone to explain to me what the negative effect on England would be, because I cannot perceive one apart from a reduced GDP

 

[PerryGunn]

It would be more interesting to know the result if the whole of the UK, not just Scotland, was allowed to vote on Scotland remaining part of the UK or becoming independent...

I wonder how many English/Welsh/Irish would vote for independence just to get rid of Salmond?

 

[the cueball]

only an idiot who believes films like braveheart have historical accuracy and think Alex 'jabba the hut' Salmond is a honest person would vote yes (IMO)

the problem is, they are appealing to the lowest of the low, and youngsters to get their votes...

this is really one of the times where people who are against something HAVE to stand up and vote, or we will be in big trouble...

most people don't even know why we HAD to join the union in the first place, never mind why we couldn't make it on our own again...

mind you, most people think Mel Gibson will save us.......

 

[shortfuse 2]

should not go ahead bad move for all

 

[Maniac]

I can't really comment as I'm simply not sure what the division would bring/mean as I've not really looked that hard into it. But like others, it would be a shame to break something up unless its going to have really positive benefits.

 

[exdos]

I would like someone to explain to me what the negative effect on England would be, because I cannot perceive one apart from a reduced GDP

Defence. The British Isles are far easier to defend as one. If Scotland were to gain Independence, then you can bet your boots that Russia/China would be courting Scotland (probably been doing this with the SNP for ages) which would cause a massive military problem for the rest of the Union. If the SNP wishes to remain in a military union as well as retain the Pound as its currency should Scotland get Independence, why seek "independence" on those terms in the first place?

 

[Talksthetorque]

Is it Possible to add a
"I don't live there and I think it's up to the people who do to decide?"
or
" I agree that the decision of the referendum is the correct answer, whichever way it goes"

None of the three current votes apply to my thinking.
I have a Scottish GF (lived in England for 26 years) but her parents are Scottish (residents) and I think they should decide, but the G/F and I should have no say.

On a motoring note, are they planning to pay for the devolution via the increase in the Dumfries Scamera Wagon revenue as people accelerate away from the passport control booths on the M74? :evil:

 

[bigdog]

As an American I haven't a horse in this race.

I do think it is nearly impossible in this electronically interconnected banking/ commerce age we live in, For a modern country to have a go at independence. The banking powers will not recognize this new independent nation, Unless this new nation did just as before and hand over the money supply duties to the central banking conglomerates. Then the process of political corruption thru control of the money supply will simply reset and start anew.

We in the US face the same sort of dilemma. People are starting to see what the federal reserve banks & their corporate cronies have done to the USA through artificial inflation & deflation, As well as their control over most politicians. But we have gone far to deep into it to simply back out. The US has collectively found it's self about 200 feet under water without an air tank. Do we just drown, Or bolt to the surface and die of the bends.