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Hi all,
Does any body know that when fitting the super sprint exhaust along with the resonator delete section does this make the exhaust to raspy.
I was reading that someone had done this and didn't like how it sounded. For him it was to raspy.
He decided to refit the resonator section along with just the race cans and for him it was much better.
I am about to buy the race cans and resonator delete section so just wondered if anyone here has some experience with this.
I know that one mans dislike can be another mans love.
 
From past experience with ZM aftermarket exhausts there are far better options for similar or less ££ than SuperSprint.
I bought a MR with them fitted & couldn't get them off fast enough , there is no defined tone with them , they just make a racket that's not particularly enjoyable ( only RPIs rate worse in my ears )
Stromungs would probably rate highest if there was a vote of aftermarket options .
As for the X pipe itself , , it's a unnecessary mod for 99% of owners & the original factory one is supremely well crafted.
 
mr wilks said:
From past experience with ZM aftermarket exhausts there are far better options for similar or less ££ than SuperSprint.
I bought a MR with them fitted & couldn't get them off fast enough , there is no defined tone with them , they just make a racket that's not particularly enjoyable ( only RPIs rate worse in my ears )
Stromungs would probably rate highest if there was a vote of aftermarket options .
As for the X pipe itself , , it's a unnecessary mod for 99% of owners & the original factory one is supremely well crafted.

Thanks.
Srtomungs are hard to get hold of.
I agree though they do sound quite nice.
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taz1966 said:
mr wilks said:
From past experience with ZM aftermarket exhausts there are far better options for similar or less ££ than SuperSprint.
I bought a MR with them fitted & couldn't get them off fast enough , there is no defined tone with them , they just make a racket that's not particularly enjoyable ( only RPIs rate worse in my ears )
Stromungs would probably rate highest if there was a vote of aftermarket options .
As for the X pipe itself , , it's a unnecessary mod for 99% of owners & the original factory one is supremely well crafted.

Thanks.
Srtomungs are hard to get hold of.
I agree though they do sound quite nice.
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The reason i was going down the super sprint road is i have been offered a set of cans and x pipe.
 
The only Super sprint exhaust I ever fitted was on my Fiat Coupe 20VT and it was fantastic. No idea how it fares on a Z4. :thumbsup:
 
I had Remus with SS x-pipe and it was extremely loud and droney.

The best combo I have had is OE muffles with the SS x-pipe
 
I opted for the BCS back boxes on my Z4M after hours of listening to sound clips & hearing a few exhausts in person.

The Remus brand were simply too quiet for me. The Stromung boxes, though a favourite for sub £1000 along with being well made & providing a significant weight saving, they in my opinion lowered the tone of the S54 engine so much the rasp & character was lost. They also had drone at motorway/dual carriageway speeds.

The BCS boxes are very well made & the tips fit the bumper recess well. They are loud on cold starts but settle down…..slightly and do keep the addictive rasp above 4,000rpm.

Every system I heard has the generic drone at 1,800-2000rpm sometimes at higher rpm but you work the gearing to resolve this. The best thing about the BCS are no drone at cruising speeds & an abundance of pops & crackles on overrun or when letting off the accelerator. Especially when they get hot.

For 2nd hand money these can’t be beaten unless you are extremely lucky to find something like a KKS, Arqray. I personally do like the look, quality, fitment & sound of the Supersprint Race Silencers & X-Pipe combo. Seeing as the OEM centre flanges do corrode fitting a set of aftermarket silencers can be a concern on high mileage cars. At least the Supersprint combo with slip joints would avoid this issue.

Its a very metallically sounding rasp but I feel the x pipe is what gives it that character. At the time I was ready to buy, this setup didn't come up for sale very often used so I had to choose the BCS.
 
Tax, have you decided to keep the Z? I thought you were replacing it with a GTS 4.0? Would love to hear your thoughts on the two cars as I keep eyeing up the 4.0 as a ‘one day perhaps’ next car.
 
beanie said:
Tax, have you decided to keep the Z? I thought you were replacing it with a GTS 4.0? Would love to hear your thoughts on the two cars as I keep eyeing up the 4.0 as a ‘one day perhaps’ next car.
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So as i said i was into minds whether to keep the ZMR and have decided to keep it.
I actually for various reasons only kept the car for about two weeks.
So have decided to keep the Z and spend some money on it.
I was in touch with Areeve motorsport to day regarding the CSL style air box fitted and the rolling road tuned.
What was interesitng is that he was actually saying that the S54 in the Z responded better to the box than the original E46.When i asked how come he said that the S54 in our cars is a better engine than the original with several differences.
He also said that the lowest power on a ZM he had seen with the carbon box was 374HP.
 
getsetbrett said:
I opted for the BCS back boxes on my Z4M after hours of listening to sound clips & hearing a few exhausts in person.

The Remus brand were simply too quiet for me. The Stromung boxes, though a favourite for sub £1000 along with being well made & providing a significant weight saving, they in my opinion lowered the tone of the S54 engine so much the rasp & character was lost. They also had drone at motorway/dual carriageway speeds.

The BCS boxes are very well made & the tips fit the bumper recess well. They are loud on cold starts but settle down…..slightly and do keep the addictive rasp above 4,000rpm.

Every system I heard has the generic drone at 1,800-2000rpm sometimes at higher rpm but you work the gearing to resolve this. The best thing about the BCS are no drone at cruising speeds & an abundance of pops & crackles on overrun or when letting off the accelerator. Especially when they get hot.

For 2nd hand money these can’t be beaten unless you are extremely lucky to find something like a KKS, Arqray. I personally do like the look, quality, fitment & sound of the Supersprint Race Silencers & X-Pipe combo. Seeing as the OEM centre flanges do corrode fitting a set of aftermarket silencers can be a concern on high mileage cars. At least the Supersprint combo with slip joints would avoid this issue.

Its a very metallically sounding rasp but I feel the x pipe is what gives it that character. At the time I was ready to buy, this setup didn't come up for sale very often used so I had to choose the BCS.
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getsetbrett said:
I opted for the BCS back boxes on my Z4M after hours of listening to sound clips & hearing a few exhausts in person.

The Remus brand were simply too quiet for me. The Stromung boxes, though a favourite for sub £1000 along with being well made & providing a significant weight saving, they in my opinion lowered the tone of the S54 engine so much the rasp & character was lost. They also had drone at motorway/dual carriageway speeds.

The BCS boxes are very well made & the tips fit the bumper recess well. They are loud on cold starts but settle down…..slightly and do keep the addictive rasp above 4,000rpm.

Every system I heard has the generic drone at 1,800-2000rpm sometimes at higher rpm but you work the gearing to resolve this. The best thing about the BCS are no drone at cruising speeds & an abundance of pops & crackles on overrun or when letting off the accelerator. Especially when they get hot.

For 2nd hand money these can’t be beaten unless you are extremely lucky to find something like a KKS, Arqray. I personally do like the look, quality, fitment & sound of the Supersprint Race Silencers & X-Pipe combo. Seeing as the OEM centre flanges do corrode fitting a set of aftermarket silencers can be a concern on high mileage cars. At least the Supersprint combo with slip joints would avoid this issue.

Its a very metallically sounding rasp but I feel the x pipe is what gives it that character. At the time I was ready to buy, this setup didn't come up for sale very often used so I had to choose the BCS.
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So do you like the Race super sprint with the resonator delete (X pipe)
 
taz1966 said:
beanie said:
Tax, have you decided to keep the Z? I thought you were replacing it with a GTS 4.0? Would love to hear your thoughts on the two cars as I keep eyeing up the 4.0 as a ‘one day perhaps’ next car.
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So as i said i was into minds whether to keep the ZMR and have decided to keep it.

I actually for various reasons only kept the car for about two weeks.
So have decided to keep the Z and spend some money on it.
I was in touch with Areeve motorsport to day regarding the CSL style air box fitted and the rolling road tuned.
What was interesitng is that he was actually saying that the S54 in the Z responded better to the box than the original E46.When i asked how come he said that the S54 in our cars is a better engine than the original with several differences.
He also said that the lowest power on a ZM he had seen with the carbon box was 374HP.

Reason i decided to keep it IS IT IS BEAUTIFUL and worth a hole lot more money than what they are making now
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taz1966 said:
taz1966 said:
beanie said:
Tax, have you decided to keep the Z? I thought you were replacing it with a GTS 4.0? Would love to hear your thoughts on the two cars as I keep eyeing up the 4.0 as a ‘one day perhaps’ next car.
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So as i said i was into minds whether to keep the ZMR and have decided to keep it.

I actually for various reasons only kept the car for about two weeks.
So have decided to keep the Z and spend some money on it.
I was in touch with Areeve motorsport to day regarding the CSL style air box fitted and the rolling road tuned.
What was interesitng is that he was actually saying that the S54 in the Z responded better to the box than the original E46.When i asked how come he said that the S54 in our cars is a better engine than the original with several differences.
He also said that the lowest power on a ZM he had seen with the carbon box was 374HP.

Reason i decided to keep it IS IT IS BEAUTIFUL and worth a hole lot more money than what they are making now
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Tax, have you decided to keep the Z? I thought you were replacing it with a GTS 4.0? Would love to hear your thoughts on the two cars as I keep eyeing up the 4.0 as a ‘one day perhaps’ next car.
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So as i said i was into minds whether to keep the ZMR and have decided to keep it.

I actually for various reasons only kept the car for about two weeks.
So have decided to keep the Z and spend some money on it.
I was in touch with Areeve motorsport to day regarding the CSL style air box fitted and the rolling road tuned.
What was interesitng is that he was actually saying that the S54 in the Z responded better to the box than the original E46.When i asked how come he said that the S54 in our cars is a better engine than the original with several differences.
He also said that the lowest power on a ZM he had seen with the carbon box was 374HP.

Reason i decided to keep it IS IT IS BEAUTIFUL and worth a hole lot more money than what they are making now
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It’s a great looking car and a nice spec you’ve got, I can’t blame you for sticking with it! As you say, they’re huge value at 15-20k and to significantly better them requires many multiples of their price. I’m sure they’ll have their day regarding values, it’s just whether they ever appreciate more than it costs to keep the bloody things taxed and going!

Shame the GTS didn’t work out for you but they’ll still be available in the future should you have a change of heart. In a straight line, there isn’t a huge amount between them on the road. My brother (370z nismo) and I had a play with a 718 GT4 and the difference was very minor. A skilled driver on a track would no doubt really highlight the extra ability of the Porsche, but we both felt some sense of consolation :lol:

374bhp is a hefty number from just an airbox and remap, I’d bargain on 350-360 and take anything else as a bonus or that the dyno gods were simply having a good day!
 
beanie said:
It’s a great looking car and a nice spec you’ve got, I can’t blame you for sticking with it! As you say, they’re huge value at 15-20k and to significantly better them requires many multiples of their price. I’m sure they’ll have their day regarding values, it’s just whether they ever appreciate more than it costs to keep the bloody things taxed and going!

Shame the GTS didn’t work out for you but they’ll still be available in the future should you have a change of heart. In a straight line, there isn’t a huge amount between them on the road. My brother (370z nismo) and I had a play with a 718 GT4 and the difference was very minor. A skilled driver on a track would no doubt really highlight the extra ability of the Porsche, but we both felt some sense of consolation :lol:

374bhp is a hefty number from just an airbox and remap, I’d bargain on 350-360 and take anything else as a bonus or that the dyno gods were simply having a good day!
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Regards 374HP i was typically thinking the same as you 350-360.I am buying it for the sound more than the extra HP.
I had bought a Eventuri but have decided to go the hole hog. So there will be a brand new Eventuri soon for sale.
I noticed that it says you are in Bournemouth sometimes?
 
I’m occasionally in the Bournemouth area but haven’t lived there permanently since about 2001/2. It’ll always be home though so it’s nice to go back :)
 
I've had a few exhausts:
Remus - great daily driver exhaust. Bit of bass, not too much extra volume, no extra rasp
Stromung - loud, bassy, droney. Need to raise voices inside the car to talk at motorway speeds
Eisenmann race - loud, bassy idle but not bassy throughout like the Stromung. Minimal drone. Best looking tips
 
Jon2215 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bunHEQOHuug&si=p2a_ENSKDhCQ5IWZ
Aaron done my airbox dyno setup
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In your opinion was it worth it.
Could you feel the extra power. I know the noise can sometimes make you feel it is quicker (but dyno)
 
taz1966 said:
Jon2215 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bunHEQOHuug&si=p2a_ENSKDhCQ5IWZ
Aaron done my airbox dyno setup
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In your opinion was it worth it.
Could you feel the extra power. I know the noise can sometimes make you feel it is quicker (but dyno)
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Definitely feel the increase in power and the torque response.
Will quite happily pull from 30mph in 6th with no hesitation.
Aside from the induction note the improvement in drivability was worth the cost.
 
Jon2215 said:
taz1966 said:
Jon2215 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bunHEQOHuug&si=p2a_ENSKDhCQ5IWZ
Aaron done my airbox dyno setup
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In your opinion was it worth it.
Could you feel the extra power. I know the noise can sometimes make you feel it is quicker (but dyno)
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Definitely feel the increase in power and the torque response.
Will quite happily pull from 30mph in 6th with no hesitation.
Aside from the induction note the improvement in drivability was worth the cost.
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:thumbsup:
 
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