Road pricing on way

chetalien

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Holland is first to introduce road pricing from 2012. Congestion reducer or money maker?
The Dutch cabinet agreed late last week to introduce road pricing for all cars using Dutch roads. Current road and vehicle taxes will be scrapped and from 2012 all cars will have to pay 0.03 Euros a Kilometre, rising to 0.07 Euros by 2017. The expectation of this new law is the total mileage being driven by Dutch motorists will drop by around 15% and tailbacks will be cut by 50%.

Hidden away in the detail is a plan to charge car drivers a punitive rush hour tariff and for certain roads to have a much higher charge than other roads to try and reduce congestion. The system will be based on satellite tracking technology and relies on a transponder being fitted to all cars, new and old, by the start of 2012. Drivers will then receive an invoice for the distance they have travelled at the end of each month.

For Dutch truck drivers, road pricing starts a year earlier as from the beginning of 2011 they will start paying for using the Dutch road system and they will have to pay a much higher rate than cars but the actual rate has still to be announced.

Will it come to the UK? Well, the current government have made it clear earlier this year the idea of road pricing has been dropped but with a new government due next year, this could change. If the Dutch experiment works then it would be hard for other countries to resist. Expect to hear more about this scheme over the coming months.
 
Well for one, I'm not really too bothered.

The logic is not sound, and things based upon stupid logic don't work in the long run.

All it will do is cause inflation on logistics, and/or force people to commute at different times.

Why not just encourage employers and distributors through carrot, rather than stick, and give support to those businesses that might want to offer flexible working hours etc?


Our road network capacities are HUGE in real terms, just we all happen to want to use them at the same time. Spread that peak flow out over twice the duration (rush hour becomes rush two or three hours), and you would significantly reduce congestion.


The real issue to resolve is our stupid adherence to the 9-5 for the majority. Move it to law for flexible start/end hours (however you enforce total hours is up to businesses, settle after a day, a week, or a month), and then just have 8-10 and 4-6 as ending hours. I'm sure for most this would be lots better as total coverage in most places would be improved from partial 8-6 rather than only 9-5.


Hmmmm

Dave
 
Uh ... http://www.nrebate.com/en/super-mini-cigarette-lighter-gps-blocker.html?language=en&currency=GBP
 
Can you imagine renting a car in NL, how can you ever verify the credit card bill a month later when they just charge anything to it?
 
pvr said:
Can you imagine renting a car in NL, how can you ever verify the credit card bill a month later when they just charge anything to it?

As with all such changes they are thought out only so far to raise revenue, change bahaviour, etc. and not the implementation of it.

Hire cars are one thing, but the final insult must be if you car gets stolen you later get a bill for travel the Eastern border :poke:
 
Penalty for interfering with the device has been set at 84000 Euro and 4 years in prison.

Labour Lunacy must have blown over the water where the crime to mess with your car is higher then dealing in drugs now. (1 year prison + 10000 Euro fine for dealing hard drugs).
 
all seems very complicated to me, just put the tax on the petrol, the more you use the more you pay
 
"The system will be based on satellite tracking technology and relies on a transponder being fitted to all cars, new and old, by the start of 2012."

Completely unrealistic.
 
Shooter said:
"The system will be based on satellite tracking technology and relies on a transponder being fitted to all cars, new and old, by the start of 2012."

Completely unrealistic.

Exactly.

It'll cost a fortune right at a time when the world has no real spare money.

Even then the return on investment/operating costs is small vs the tax it will generate.

It's just an idea that will die a death in my view. As time goes by it never feels to get any nearer... just so many reasons why it will fail, the first and foremost being that people by choice don't drive to congested places. It's through having no choice, and so all it will do is absord GDP/disposable income and cause inflation/recession.

Thick idea thought up by clever people incentivised by subsidies, grants and manufacturing/operating money from our hard earned pockets, via central government!

Dave
 
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