Theog said:interesting words regarding the engine types @GreyZed
@mr wilks - will have a good look, but for some reason i would prefer to hold out for a 3L
mr wilks said:Theog said:bigger horses :wink:
Theog said:half tempted to sell a kidney for this one
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I wouldn't as it is a Cat C write off, and it doesn't look cared for if you ask me. Wheels are an awful home paint job by the looks of it, and at that price for an M, there is something not quite right there.Theog said:half tempted to sell a kidney for this one... I see its a cat C though... anyone got thoughts about buying cat C?
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Theog said:Ok point taken regarding the Cat C... I thought that was a little too good to be true. I prefer the idea of a safe investment rather than a risky one. God knows how much the M parts cost as well.
At the moment I'm stuck with the whole M54 / N52 (2006 or older). I have looked at some videos and the same things keep on popping up. Pre 2006 has a tendency for sticky steering, while post 2006 has a tendency for the engine ticking. Then a whole bunch of other smaller issues around and about. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Couple more questions:
- If I were to get the M54 (pre 2006) or N52 (2006 and after), which would be (as a very general rule of thumb) more reliable? E.g. costs generally associated with faulty parts of facelift vs original... or is this impossible to say? Theoretically they should have sorted most of them out, but it doesn't seem that way.
- They say the newer N52 is more powerful, lighter and economical. Is it really noticeable to have those extra few ponies (231bhp vs 265bhp)... also is economy really that much better on the N52?
Really appreciate it guys... big help!
Theog said:Ok point taken regarding the Cat C... I thought that was a little too good to be true. I prefer the idea of a safe investment rather than a risky one. God knows how much the M parts cost as well.
At the moment I'm stuck with the whole M54 / N52 (2006 or older). I have looked at some videos and the same things keep on popping up. Pre 2006 has a tendency for sticky steering, while post 2006 has a tendency for the engine ticking. Then a whole bunch of other smaller issues around and about. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Couple more questions:
- If I were to get the M54 (pre 2006) or N52 (2006 and after), which would be (as a very general rule of thumb) more reliable? E.g. costs generally associated with faulty parts of facelift vs original... or is this impossible to say? Theoretically they should have sorted most of them out, but it doesn't seem that way.
- They say the newer N52 is more powerful, lighter and economical. Is it really noticeable to have those extra few ponies (231bhp vs 265bhp)... also is economy really that much better on the N52?
Really appreciate it guys... big help!
Smartbear said:Theog said:Ok point taken regarding the Cat C... I thought that was a little too good to be true. I prefer the idea of a safe investment rather than a risky one. God knows how much the M parts cost as well.
At the moment I'm stuck with the whole M54 / N52 (2006 or older). I have looked at some videos and the same things keep on popping up. Pre 2006 has a tendency for sticky steering, while post 2006 has a tendency for the engine ticking. Then a whole bunch of other smaller issues around and about. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Couple more questions:
- If I were to get the M54 (pre 2006) or N52 (2006 and after), which would be (as a very general rule of thumb) more reliable? E.g. costs generally associated with faulty parts of facelift vs original... or is this impossible to say? Theoretically they should have sorted most of them out, but it doesn't seem that way.
- They say the newer N52 is more powerful, lighter and economical. Is it really noticeable to have those extra few ponies (231bhp vs 265bhp)... also is economy really that much better on the N52?
Really appreciate it guys... big help!
Hi theog, bmw's own figures claim 12% more power & 8% more economy over the older m54 engined car.
Regarding the cylinder head tick, don't worry about it as it's never affected reliability & nobodys engine has grenaded because of it-more regular oil changes (always a good thing anyways) and avoid using it for short journeys where it doesn't warm up properly, most ticking will disappear using this regime.
Regards
GreyZed said:Smartbear said:Theog said:Ok point taken regarding the Cat C... I thought that was a little too good to be true. I prefer the idea of a safe investment rather than a risky one. God knows how much the M parts cost as well.
At the moment I'm stuck with the whole M54 / N52 (2006 or older). I have looked at some videos and the same things keep on popping up. Pre 2006 has a tendency for sticky steering, while post 2006 has a tendency for the engine ticking. Then a whole bunch of other smaller issues around and about. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Couple more questions:
- If I were to get the M54 (pre 2006) or N52 (2006 and after), which would be (as a very general rule of thumb) more reliable? E.g. costs generally associated with faulty parts of facelift vs original... or is this impossible to say? Theoretically they should have sorted most of them out, but it doesn't seem that way.
- They say the newer N52 is more powerful, lighter and economical. Is it really noticeable to have those extra few ponies (231bhp vs 265bhp)... also is economy really that much better on the N52?
Really appreciate it guys... big help!
Hi theog, bmw's own figures claim 12% more power & 8% more economy over the older m54 engined car.
Regarding the cylinder head tick, don't worry about it as it's never affected reliability & nobodys engine has grenaded because of it-more regular oil changes (always a good thing anyways) and avoid using it for short journeys where it doesn't warm up properly, most ticking will disappear using this regime.
Regards
Agree but still a disgrace they ever put the engine into mass production in that state especially in vehicles that buyers were parting with around £40k for! As I said earlier I currently have both engines and find it no surprise that the N52's reign was so short in comparison to that of the M54. The OP should also keep an eye on road tax prices. Not sure whether this affects Zeds in the same way but I know that the road tax for our X3 would be £290 rather than £490 if I had got one with the M54 registered pre March 2006. It would be good if someone could confirm if the facelifted 3.0si Zeds registered after March 2006 are still in the £290 a year bracket.
GedS said:This has just come up!
Low mileage roadster, 3.0si xenon upgraded brakes
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