Official BMW M3 M4 Specs

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jimmybell

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Not sure if this has been shared/discussed yet .. but stolen from bimmerpost - http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892746

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Some highlights:


  • * 430bhp
    * 369lbs/ft
    * bi-turbo
    * 1500kg weight
    * CFRP panels/components as standard

Executive Summary: Fast.


Less importantly - my thoughts:
- bi-turbo will presumably mean a JB4/JB5 chip @ £500 turning it into a 500bhp M3/M4?
- It isn't gona be cheap when you add the "optional" essentials! ... DCT+launch, Suspension and Ceramic brakes.
- I still pine for the 'proper' sportscar (yes the sportscar debate has been had)... personally I see the M3/M4 as a tuned exec-saloon/coupe rather than a true 2 seat sports beast. I'm probably just echoing the typical Z4M owners opinion though.. looking for the next direct upgrade :p lets hope for a new z4 with this beast of an engine!


Who wants one?!
 
I personally cannot see the point of a very fast 4 seat car for day to day use outside of diplomatic protection / police.

I see M6's and X5M's and think what's the point? Terrifying the kids? Driving to your next sales meeting like a knob end?

It's like sticking an plane engine on a sofa, an impressive bit of engineering but what's the point. I'd imagine I'm on my own with this thought though.... :evil:

I couldn't give a monkeys if they stick this in a new z4M, the last true M car BMW built was the Z4m. They won't ever build anything like it again. :fuelfire:
 
I don't disagree - i'm not a fan of the inevitable turbo route all cars are now taking. I can understand why though, as a business decision it's more power, lighter and more economical.

Maybe that's why i like the new F-Type, shame the boot is so useless .. i couldn't even go on a road trip :(
 
Having driven a 1M i would actually say day to day driving that handles better then a Z4M.

I dont see the issue with FI, if you are in no hurry then potter around and save petrol. When you feel like going for a hoon the same car does that for you.

Bit like having multiple cars as one... Something to take the kids, something to go to work, and something on the track.... Imo its a great idea, hardly a couch with an engine.


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I think it will be awesome! 1500kg thats near enough the same as the Z! Performance will be insane.
 
I am looking forward to it & the lighter weight & more torque plus tuneability added to more MPG is a bonus I reckon, I understand why some people don't see the point of a mighty engine in a Coupe/saloon but they do make very good allrounders.

There was an interesting review in evo magazine when reviewing the most recent E89 35i & it stated how come BMW can make a aspirational M3 a sublime M5 & a very capable 3 series for 25 years but they can't make a decent sports car & it even said the Z4M falls short.

Taking an unbiased view it's does baffle because the Z3 Z4 & Z8 haven't delivered to the heights of bmw's highly rated cars & you would think with their know how they would get it right, it makes for an interesting debate & if I am totally honest I never thought my old Z4M's chassis was that well resolved in comparision to my M3.

I love the Z4M & I can see my buying a Coupe at some stage so I haven't got anything against the zed at all & i love what it stands for.
 
LeeZ4MR said:
if I am totally honest I never thought my old Z4M's chassis was that well resolved in comparision to my M3
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Good tyres and decent springs transform the car. It's an undriveable mess at anything under 50 with standard setup.
 
tomscott said:
That's a ridiculous overstatement
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No its not. The ride would jar fillings loose on anything but brilliant roads. I used to drive on a piece of road near me and between 50 and 60 it would trip the DSC.

God help you if you went over a pot hole, there would be an almighty thud and you'd bounce.
 
tomscott said:
That's a ridiculous overstatement
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I'm inclined to agree. To say it is an un-driveable mess is nonsense. I drive most of the time below 50mph (fact of life in this day and age) and whilst the ride is hard, and the damping at the rear could be better, it certainly doesn't dilute the appeal of driving it in quite the way suggested.
 
Merrsh1 said:
tomscott said:
That's a ridiculous overstatement
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No its not. The ride would jar fillings loose on anything but brilliant roads. I used to drive on a piece of road near me and between 50 and 60 it would trip the DSC.

God help you if you went over a pot hole, there would be an almighty thud and you'd bounce.
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Utter rubbish. Agreed its not the best ride BMW have ever produced but the rest is bs
 
Merrsh1 said:
LeeZ4MR said:
if I am totally honest I never thought my old Z4M's chassis was that well resolved in comparision to my M3
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Good tyres and decent springs transform the car. It's an undriveable mess at anything under 50 with standard setup.
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Yes I have heard you can make a big difference with the set up regarding tyres & springs & mine had conti M3 tyres on it & you don't hear many good things said about them.

I did find the low speed ride irritating on broken Tarmac but I have read other people who use theirs as a daily & they don't have any issues with it, I suppose it's just a personal thing maybe.
 
tomscott said:
Merrsh1 said:
tomscott said:
That's a ridiculous overstatement
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No its not. The ride would jar fillings loose on anything but brilliant roads. I used to drive on a piece of road near me and between 50 and 60 it would trip the DSC.

God help you if you went over a pot hole, there would be an almighty thud and you'd bounce.
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Utter rubbish. Agreed its not the best ride BMW have ever produced but the rest is bs
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Put the toys back in the pram boyo. My opinion and if you don't like it then feel free to disagree politely. I now run Eibachs and PSS tyres all round and it's as the car should be. The z4m on standard setup is not a pleasant place to be at low speed on anything but perfect roads.
 
Never driven an OEM spec z4m with oem wheels/tyres so i can only comment on mine with CSLs and vred/pss... (lower profile tyres, larger wheels).

London's worst roads are "bumpy annoying", but they're small patches of huge potholes i would find annoying in a Range Rover. Everyday driving is fine, i wouldn't want it any softer - it's not a soft soppy ford focus.
 
Just seen on BMWBLOG that the new M3/4 will have the same 'Active Sound' as the M5/6. In other words it will have fake engine noise coming through the sound system into the cabin. What a terrible shame. :thumbsdown:

Why not just design a more sonorous turbo engine in the first place and do away with silly gimmicks like this?
 
original guvnor said:
Just seen on BMWBLOG that the new M3/4 will have the same 'Active Sound' as the M5/6. In other words it will have fake engine noise coming through the sound system into the cabin. What a terrible shame. :thumbsdown:

Why not just design a more sonorous turbo engine in the first place and do away with silly gimmicks like this?
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I think if this had come after the E46 then i would agree make the engine sound more meaty.. however after the E9* V8 i think the inline 6 would struggle.... the N55 in the 3 series has much more of an exhaust note then engine... couple that this will have another twin scroll turbo.. it would prob sound all wizz and no grunt!
 
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