New Car Tax Question

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simonlpearce

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Now then, if the tax on a car is cancelled by the DVLA on the last day of the month, that effectively means that a new owner doesn't have to tax the car until the first day of the next month as the car effectively still has tax on it and surely would show as such on the police systems etc? So for someone buying a car say at the start of that month they would in effect get a months tax with the car? Or do they cancel it as soon as the V5 turns up with new keeper details?
 
My understanding is they cancel the VED from the day you sell the car.
Your refund is by the full months remaining, you lose what's left of the month in which you sell the car.
The new owner taxes the car from the day they buy it. Backdated to 1st of month.
 
The new owner has to tax the vehicle for the first of the month, meaning hmgov get the moths tax twice !

Not been resolved yet..


Oh and dd payments cannot be setup up until 1st November, if your already taxed they take a payment within 14 days of application but if it's less than two weeks to the date of the start of the vel they will take two payments on the first banking day of the month the vel starts.

So if it's sorn, you cannot apply for tax for the first of the next month until two days before or you have to tax it for the previous month !

I think there are still issues to be resolved.

:thumbsdown:
 
Is there a limit on how often you can Sorn - unSorn it? Say I go on holiday for a month, can I sorn it at the end of the month, don't have tax for a month, and then buy another 12 months the month after?
 
If you sorn you can only tax two,days before the start of the next month and they take two months up front on the first banking day of the month. Effectively every time you unsorn and tax you pay for the first two months tax up front so it would appear sorning a vehicle often will become a costly option probably just do as we do now ! Pay through the nose !
 
Does it not work that if you buy 12 months tax, sorn after month 1, then get a refund for 11 months, then unsorn again for 12 months etc? Or are you saying that a minimum tax term is two months?
 
Even the advisors can't answer that one. They said you will need to wait and see when DD comes on line in November.

Why is that not a surprise.

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This does all seem like a load of bull. It is almost worthwhile not sending the V5 off and keeping any tax that's remaining on a vehicle, at least for those with any tax left that is.

Suppose the only issue with that is you could rack up a few point for the previous owner, lol.

I do agree though it really needs to be brought up to speed.
 
The previous owner will have sent their part of, so they get the tax back.

I just sent my V5 part back, so expect the rest of the tax back at some stage.

Just need to get myself sorted on the other cars that may well not be used for months on end, how the sorn-ing and re-taxing part would work.
 
Good luck in getting heLp on the sorn unsorn bits as the adviser wanted to just get me off the phone as quickly as possible once I started asking questions as to why I would end up paying for two months as soon as I set up a DD.

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PVR, I can't see why it would be an issue if your buying 12 or 6 months tax each time. Nellywelly is clearly on about direct debit monthly payments and I can see why they don't have the answers because it's new, whereas buying 6 or 12 months hasn't changed and choosing to SORN and then Un-SORN whilst under 6 or 12 months tax also hasn't.

If you do pay by monthly direct debit and they take two months but you only need 1, then they will have to refund you the 1 month they've taken because they say they will refund any unused months tax that have been paid for.
 
sounds imo that they have as quite often the case , rushed it through without thinking it through fully, was there any sort of consultation period as to what suggestions the public came up with, or wanted ? or did some faceless expert in an office decide for us ? it was supposed to simplify the system and make it easier to catch evaders, i dont see it has done either :thumbsdown:
 
I bought PSW007's Zed a few weeks ago and it's sat in my garage. I now have the V5c back in my name, so thought I'd SORN it on-line.

Apparently I cant SORN it on-line, according to the Govt website: When I try, this is the message I get:-

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"Unable to use service

Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for vehicle tax or make a SORN using this service.

You will need to apply for the vehicle tax or make a SORN at a Post Office® branch that deals with vehicle tax using the reminder (Vehicle Tax/SORN application) or the registration certificate/new keeper supplement (V5C/2 if you are a new keeper) together with the MOT test certificate/GVT test certificate (if applicable) and fee.
For vehicles registered to a Northern Ireland address you must also take an insurance certificate or cover note.

You can declare SORN by sending form V890 to DVLA Swansea. Click here to get V890"
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So, if the vehicle is now in my name and I have the V5, why the hell not ? PSW 'untaxed' it on 22nd November and according to their site checker the vehicle is now officially untaxed from that date ?

Has anyone else experienced this ?
 
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