The problem I had was I came out of my TVR Cerbera 4.5 & I can honestly & easily say that after that the E92 M3 felt very sluggish, numb & lifeless...but that's not the M3s fault but when all said & done its just a 3 series with a nice engine under the bonnet...that's how I found it anyway, the best thing about it was its chassis though & that is a high point.socketr said:
Nearly bought an E92 M3 tonight
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socketr said:You did the right thing to walk away from the purchase. With a relatively high mileage car you need to have complete confidence in its history otherwise it will burn you. I recently had to have 2 throttle actuators replaced luckily under warranty as the parts cost alone was insane. So do your homework before you purchase, it will benefit you immensely in the long run to get a dealership warranty covered car. I wouldn't buy an E92 M3 without going over it with a fine tooth comb.
Performance/usability wise it is a fantastic machine, very usable as a daily driver and has a fantastically capable chassis. IMHO I cant understand people who think the car is sluggish, numb and lifeless, they obviously haven't had the opportunity to exploit its performance. Yes around town in low revs it can feel 'heavy' at times but that's the beauty of it and reflects its usability as a daily driver. The E92 M3 has to be driven, if your a person who wants to potter a
bout and have a car that flatters your driving its not for you, you will not get the most out of the engine or chassis.
People often forget the development that goes into an M3, thinking its just a tweaked 3 series, the below is quite a nice insight. Absolutely without doubt one of the best v8 coupes ever.socketr said:+1
OP not sure if you've 100% decided on an E92 M3 but you won't be disappointed.
I've driven many E46's M3's here and more in Germany. I also take mine from the UK to Germany at least twice a month.
For cruising or out and out speed/comfort it's very hard to beat.
Seek out a good dealer for a Manual and an M DCT, ask to set the M mode up and go for a proper blast. It's not just the Engine. The suspension/Handling is on another level
keepittrill
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Could NOT be happier with my M3. I don't give a damn about gas mileage and I like the fact that you don't have enough torque to get yourself into trouble on accident.
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keepittrill said:
I'm sure you don't, most owners on here would love to purchase fuel at the same cost as you do across the pond
I'm going to be the only one to go against the grain here and say that the missing service on an e90 wouldn't (and didn't) put me off. The reason for this is that the service gets logged on the key so it's very easy to check it's history at any BMW dealership for a very small fee.
I bought an e90 with no history a few years back. It was at an indie so I drove it to the nearest BMW garage during the test drive and got them to check the history. I then used the missing history as a strong reason to knock the price down. Once I bought the car I ordered a new service book, took it to the dealer with the keys and got it all filled out.
If your decision was based on other things then right choice.
I bought an e90 with no history a few years back. It was at an indie so I drove it to the nearest BMW garage during the test drive and got them to check the history. I then used the missing history as a strong reason to knock the price down. Once I bought the car I ordered a new service book, took it to the dealer with the keys and got it all filled out.
If your decision was based on other things then right choice.
I like the E92 M3. I driven it on road, and on track briefly, and it is a very capable car. I guess it depends on what you've owned beforehand.
For me it would be a step down (not in handling or pace - both are stronger in the M3). Or perhaps I should say not enough of a step up. The reason I said step down is because they don't feel special to me like the Z4MC does, they are ubiquitous, I don't really want a 4-seater if I can help it, and they are too closely aligned to a mass market middle managers car too. All of those things put me off. The CSL and M3 GTS at least removed several of those criteria and so would interest me more.
To be fair is isn't a criticism of the E92 M3 per se. I could make exactly the same case for not wanting an RS4/5, C63 or the new M4 too. I've just settled on a set of criteria that push my buttons and those cars just don't.
However it is a capable and superb performance car? Yes it undoubtedly is.
For me it would be a step down (not in handling or pace - both are stronger in the M3). Or perhaps I should say not enough of a step up. The reason I said step down is because they don't feel special to me like the Z4MC does, they are ubiquitous, I don't really want a 4-seater if I can help it, and they are too closely aligned to a mass market middle managers car too. All of those things put me off. The CSL and M3 GTS at least removed several of those criteria and so would interest me more.
To be fair is isn't a criticism of the E92 M3 per se. I could make exactly the same case for not wanting an RS4/5, C63 or the new M4 too. I've just settled on a set of criteria that push my buttons and those cars just don't.
However it is a capable and superb performance car? Yes it undoubtedly is.
TitanTim said:Does make me think though all that wasted fuel and £££ss and half the time in the UK your going no faster than a Micra
Your coffin lid is nailed on for a long time!
If you can afford a nice motor then just buy It - sometimes a fast car is not just about driving fast is it?
ronk said:TitanTim said:Does make me think though all that wasted fuel and £££ss and half the time in the UK your going no faster than a Micra
Your coffin lid is nailed on for a long time!
If you can afford a nice motor then just buy It - sometimes a fast car is not just about driving fast is it?
True if you can afford it go for it, for me an M3 or similar would be a waste, mostly town driving congested roads etc and imagine the same for many owners. I don't find the M3 though visually interesting enough over and above the on paper figures.
Tim.
I drove 250 miles a week in mine & around me there are some lovely roads to enjoy the performance when you got the chance but mostly you are stuck behind flows of traffic & I used to think it wouldn't matter if I had 1000bhp as there always seemed to be something coming the other way & I just got frustrated that when sat in traffic its only returning around 15 mpg.TitanTim said:
Plus the interior is hardly any different to a normal 3 series so its not like you could sit there in traffic & enjoy its specialness because there wasn't any, I would imagine on a track bouncing off the limiter would be fun but as a daily driver it just didn't offer much to me personally.
keepittrill
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That's why you have to get the Carbon Fiber leather trim, it's very nice to look at
I had the exact opposite feeling of that gentleman up there. I WANTED a 4 seater GT car. If I wanted a true 2 seater sports car, I would have bought a Stingray Corvette and blown everything else away with the pure performance.
I had the exact opposite feeling of that gentleman up there. I WANTED a 4 seater GT car. If I wanted a true 2 seater sports car, I would have bought a Stingray Corvette and blown everything else away with the pure performance.
TitanTim said:ronk said:TitanTim said:Does make me think though all that wasted fuel and £££ss and half the time in the UK your going no faster than a Micra
Your coffin lid is nailed on for a long time!
If you can afford a nice motor then just buy It - sometimes a fast car is not just about driving fast is it?
True if you can afford it go for it, for me an M3 or similar would be a waste, mostly town driving congested roads etc and imagine the same for many owners. I don't find the M3 though visually interesting enough over and above the on paper figures.
Tim.
I think the point of an M3, for those who appreciate it, is that it would encourage you to go find roads you can drive it properly on every once in a while - you don't buy it worrying about fuel consumption. Tbh, from a different perspective you could argue that buying a brand new e89 and keeping it in the garage most of the year is also a waste of money :wink: But it takes all sorts right, and everyone is different. Having met him in person and gotten to know him on here, I'm pretty sure Adamski is looking for a driver's car he can take out for long exhilarating hoons round the fantastic roads right on his doorstep - so he'll not be worrying about mpg, nor will he be keeping it in the garage
Bing said:I think the point of an M3, for those who appreciate it, is that it would encourage you to go find roads you can drive it properly on every once in a while - you don't buy it worrying about fuel consumption. Tbh, from a different perspective you could argue that buying a brand new e89 and keeping it in the garage most of the year is also a waste of money :wink: But it takes all sorts right, and everyone is different. Having met him in person and gotten to know him on here, I'm pretty sure Adamski is looking for a driver's car he can take out for long exhilarating hoons round the fantastic roads right on his doorstep - so he'll not be worrying about mpg, nor will he be keeping it in the garage
Does the M3s glove box take a handbag
My E89 is off the road during the winter, hardly all year :roll: the rest of the year its enjoyed as it should be roof down. There are many on here who store their Zed during the winter months. Depends if you have another Zed to enjoy at the same time
Tim.
I do agree with what you want yours forkeepittrill said:That's why you have to get the Carbon Fiber leather trim, it's very nice to look at
I had the exact opposite feeling of that gentleman up there. I WANTED a 4 seater GT car. If I wanted a true 2 seater sports car, I would have bought a Stingray Corvette and blown everything else away with the pure performance.
that's what most M3 owners love about it is that it can carry four in comfort & carry the suitcases when you go on holiday & thrill on a back road when the time comes As a allrounder pretty much everyone when owns one loves them, just because I didn't like or rate mine I still see the M3 as an icon & I am looking forward to the next one very much...I just wished I hadn't ever owned one so that it would have stayed a hero in my head.
Mowflow said:
I don't understand your point, if a "missing" service was one that was never carried out then what would you get "filled in", in the service book?
I'm with you Adam, wouldn't have purchased, too many headaches come re-sell time.
£20k is a lot of money to be unsure about spending. Get back onto PH / AT and enjoy the hunt