Memo to BMW - Jobs for z4.1

Toodeep

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I'm more than happy with the Z4 so far but there are some things you should have done. Here’s my list and others may follow.

1 -- I went for Jet Black even though metallic paint was standard for the 35i. I hate the hassle when body shops have to attend to chips and scrapes. I resent that metallic wasn’t optional with an appropriate price reduction but I guess that’s part of your cunning plan.

2 -- I went with Ivory because the alcantara added a bit of something to the interior. Had the alcantara been available on the other trim colours, I might have chosen one as I'm nervous about how white will look down the line and I'm starting to dislike the stripy wood effect on the dash. Piano black would have gone fine with the Ivory, or else, if they had alcantara inserts, I’d have gone for red or black with the aluminium dash. A nice mocha or tan leather option would have been nice or even some piping options; something for the Individual program maybe?

3 -- Not meaning to get personal but I'm sure when the ladies who designed the z4 wear a revealing dress they make sure they wear good underwear. The 296 19” alloys are quite revealing but the hubs, brake discs and calipers are certainly not for show. Some drilled discs and painted calipers would be good. Is there a fundamental difference between the brake assemblies on the z4 and those on the 335i or 135i for which the BMW performance brake package is available? My dealer plays things by the book but I really can’t see what would make them unsuitable. A version of that BMW performance steering wheel on the z4 accessory list would be cool too.

4 -- That antenna. There must be a better way.

5 -- Use LEDs to whiten those corona rings. Some people don’t care but neither would they object.

5 -- If the regular, non-comfort access remote is destined only to perform one roof function, closing is more useful than opening.

6 -- There should be an option in iDrive to have the folding mirrors do their thing on locking and unlocking. Right now, convenient closing is not as convenient as it could be.

7 -- Let the roof operate even up to just 10 – 15 mph. Your ultimate driving machine’s got me hoping traffic won’t move.

8 -- Have side marker lights available for all markets, not just North America. That nose is l-o-n-g.

9 -- You really shoulda had a built in wind deflector. TT owners are making me choke on my laugh.

10 -- Make the glovebox lock with the central locking. Then the key can double lock it for valet parking.

11 -- Front foglights. I know it fogs in Germany too.

12 -- Instead of having to hold a button for 4 or 5 seconds, a separate button on the side of the remote would be a better panic button. I know Germans are meant to be cool but for us Brits 5 seconds is a long time in a panic situation and a popped trunk lid never scared off anyone.

13 -- Everything is controlled by this microprocessor and that firmware nowadays so could the gearshift paddles not be configurable so that right is up and left is down - maybe in the iDrive settings menus - if that’s what the driver prefers? I'm all for BMW beating their own path but we also have an Audi (excuse my language) with S-tronic in the family and it gets confusing. Even you at BMW use the right for up left for down elsewhere in your range so what gives?

14 -- Now . . . . BMW!! Someone else needs to be shot. Everything used to be straightforward until someone thought calling a 2.5 litre 323i would be a fun idea. Now 316 means 1.8 or 1.6 sometimes, 318 means 2 litre, 535 means 3 litre but so does 530, 745 means 5 litre, 760 means 5.5 litre. I'm guessing you blew him away and not a moment too soon but the damage is done. So-called motoring journalists all over the world have been calling engine sizes wrong for years. But now your new guy has come up with sDrive35i and xDrive20d. Tell him to stop this childish practice and, most of all, stop him sticking his tacky badges on the side of our cars. It smacks of a 1970s Japanese SuperLuxeHighLineJetGlide XL or a vehicle from one of Thuunderbird 2’s pods. I can hear Virgil Tracy saying “ We’re gonna need sDrive35i Dad” as I type. I wish I’d taken up the delete option but after the paint episode I couldn’t face paying for something else I wasn’t getting!

Lastly, and this is for nearly all manufacturers. Why do your Nav systems always want to know the town or city first? I always know the street but only sometimes know the town in which the Nav database lists it. I recently had to find a street which could have reasonably been listed in London, Norwood, Thornton Heath or Croydon; even those who live there aren't sure. Had I not been familiar with the area, I couldn’t have known these options.

Sorry it turned into a rant and don't listen to those who are saying you've gone all soft with the z4. Anyway, I'm sure you have something in the pipeline for them. z2 anyone?
 
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Good post, you could be a magazine writer IMO. Point 14 really hacks me off but BMW aren't the only ones at it - if anything Mercedes are worse: IIRC they badge their 6.2 V8 as a 6.3 because of historical relavence attached to the 6.3 badge. That's just stupid IMO.
 
3. Agree. a week visual point on all BMW's are the look of the brakes and hubs! Brake's/hubs rust far to easily! I got my dealer to paint my callipers silver (they did a good job too!!) before I picked it up as show them a little wheel cleaner and they look 50 years old (lesson learnt on my first MINI!!).

5. Is it only the comfort option that opens and closes? I have it and my remote opens and closes the roof. I thought they all did that?

6. Can't really see the point as I hardly fold mine, but the option would be good I guess.

7. Agree on that one. Think it is the obstruction of the high level brake light that made them do the roof folding in stop mode only? :?

8. Can't really see the point of side marker lights myself. I hated the look of the USA only side reflectors!!

11. Had front fogs on my Z4 Coupe and never used them!

14. With you on the name!!

The rest is probably just personal taste/wish list stuff for me. :wink:
 
Thanks for your feedback, Powerontap Breaker and Ally. To Breaker:

5. I was amazed when I turned up for my first look at the z4 in the summer and the salesman's first act was to show off the remote opening of the roof. I wondered why this would be useful while my more pragmatic partner said she could close the roof from the lounge if it was parked on the driveway and rain started to threaten. The embarrassed salesman burst her balloon by admitting this would not be possible. At the time he couldn't have know that Comfort Access provided for this as he pointed to all sorts of safety reasons why it would not be a good idea to be able to close the roof remotely. When I pointed out that his theoretical child could equally get its finger trapped during the opening sequence, he briskly moved on to the panic button. I spared him my opinion on that one!

6. I've woken to find my mirrors akimbo many times over the years and seen cars unintentionally clip and even knock off the mirrors of parked cars. Maybe it's a London thing.

7. I've heard this is the reason why some cars don't allow roof in motion but have a look and tell me that all three brake lights are not clearly visible from behind. Anyway two should suffice surely?

8. I totally agree on the US reflectors but I'm talking about the three little amber LEDs in the outer corner of their main light units. Again it could be a London thing but emerging from some of our side roads is a leap into the unknown much of the time - ask any motorcyclist if he'll talk to you. At night your headlights should signal your presence but in the daytime in a z4 you're a long way into the road before you can actually see up and down it. This is the first car I've really felt needed them.

11. It is better to have and not need than to need and not have. I admit we don't see much fog these days but I remember some real pea-soupers in the 70s
 
Why not try harder and see if you can get your list up to 20 points, or maybe even 50 or 100. :wink:

I think its fair to say that improvement can be made in most things in life. Personally, I tend to look for the good points. :thumbsup:
 
Great post and - after saying on another post there wasn't much to report - I agree with you.
The biggest surprise for me was not being able to shut the roof from the remote or if the roof is up the windows - I had thought that as the car had a Thatcham 1 alarm that this included a full closure system. I really can't see the point of standing outside the car holding a button watching a roof go down!
Although I can't say I wanted or have needed the flappy paddles on the one occasion I have tried them pushing the paddle is easy but I did have to move my hands more behind the wheel to reach the up. Up on the left - down on the right would be easier.
Much as I new it didn't have it, I would really like full post code search and safety camera warnings.

Paul
 
Z4 Beemer said:
Why not try harder and see if you can get your list up to 20 points, or maybe even 50 or 100. :wink:

I think its fair to say that improvement can be made in most things in life. Personally, I tend to look for the good points. :thumbsup:

The more I pay, the fewer improvements I expect to be needed. I'm not complaining; I knew of every one of my issues before I took the plunge. The car we own didn't arrive on a whim, it evolved through customer feedback. A vociferous minority wanted more of the hardcore machine the previous z4 apparently was but clearly more wanted something less demanding and more cosseting. There would be no other reason for BMW to make the shift. I personally think they're getting it mostly right but it is incumbent on every customer for every product to say what the provider is getting wrong. What incentive is there to change anything otherwise?

My home is full of things I never knew I needed but I'm thankful that someone, somewhere sowed the seed of an idea which caught on to the point that my life is made easier. I remember as a child in the sixties being involved in a family discussion as to whether my dad should tick the box marked "heater" in the options column for his new Ford. Rubber mats were standard which, you might imagine, is a good thing until I say that this was instead of carpet which only came with the next model up the range. Now the box we tick is marked "TV". I'm not sure we had a TV our the house back then!

I remember one of his cars had a flat, shiny, vinyl bench front seat. What fun we had, three of us squashed against the passenger door each time he turned sharply right with him clinging grimly onto the steering wheel for dear life. The good point was we had a car and our neighbours didn't. One of my own early cars was a Fiat X1/9, the envy of all my peers with pop-up lights that refused to work in harmony. The good point was that I managed to convince the girls I was making the car wink at them - with some success let me add! The roof came off that too! Usually it was a laborious manual affair involving unlatching clips and placing the hard panel under the bonnet. Just the once, however, it was automatic when it flew skyward while entering the underpass at Wandsworth Bridge at 50mph. Unable to face the embarrassment of stopping to look for it, I took a 2 mile detour round the block returning to find it placed deliberately on the central reservation, presumably by some startled motorist it narrowly missed. Still somewhat embarrassed, I tried to appear nonchalant and picked it up as if I'd left it there for safe keeping. The good point was that it was barely damaged . . . . oh, and there was no motorcyclist's still helmeted head lying nearby.
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I hope I've convinced you that I am well able to look for good points but I'm also certain that someone in the employ of BMW is paid to collate feedback from motoring journalists and internet forums and if they only saw good points we'd still have the z3 which must have had some. :wink: :evil: :thumbsup:
 
if you hadn't got key less, you would have added the position of the ignition key on your grip list. :lol:
 
Funny you should mention the position of the ignition key... :wink: :D

I've got the metal Z4 keyring attached to my key:

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... which hangs down from the ignition slot. When I get out the car after driving for a while, the keyring is usually quite hot from the hot air blowing out the knee vents. :D
 
Dario, I feel your pain - or I have done in the past. I got Comfort Access precisely because I recognised that the key position wouldn't suit me as I usually carry quite a large bunch. Z4 Beemer's key-fob heating issue hadn't occurred to me but, no doubt, this would have been a problem too.

It's funny how, at a time when everything is geared towards ease of operation and labour and time saving, that manufacturers seem hell-bent on complicating the most fundamental of operations. In the last ten years I've driven cars whose start-up operation has involved various combinations of turning keys, pushing keys, docking transponders, inserting key-cards, entering codes, pressing buttons on the dash, on the gear selector, on the centre console, pressing clutches, pressing brakes. And I have a feeling the ideas departments haven't finished with us yet. I was happiest in the primitive old days of turning a key on the steering column simply because, however many cars I drove in a week, I could start them the same way. Of the more recent alternatives, Mercedes' button on the gear selector (with their keyless system) seemed the most convenient to me but I'd settle for anything as long as everyone goes back to doing it the same way. I'm quite a car person so I know most of the options but I've lost count of the amount of times I've had to explain to someone how to start a car.
 
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