Launching a new European Driving Tour Rally

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shuey

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Hey all

I'm looking to start a new driving tour rally across Europe and was wondering if you guys wouldn't mind answering a questionnaire and get your thoughts on what would appeal to you for a fully organised driving tour.

Think the type of road trips that Clarkson, Hammond and May have been on, but in we would be using our own car's.

The questionnaire
https://goo.gl/forms/P1xrqeBTBeNSbk9D3

A bit of background
I'm aiming to create an aspirational tour that both appeals to the every day car enthusiasts but minus the astronomical costs often associated with a rally. I want to focus on people with sports cars (bmw's M cars and any enthusiast car, Z4s, 2 & 4 series, Porsche Caymans, Boxters, Nissan 370z's, Merc C Coupes, SLKs, Lotus Elises and anything rare, or classic or coupe / roadster. Obviously supercars and higher end cars are more than welcome, but they are probably happier doing the Gumball or Canonball Run. My focus would be make touring Europe as cost effective as poss, without sacrificing quality.

Test run
I'm thinking of doing a test run by myself towards end of August / September in preparation for a full launch early Spring next year. And anyone who wants to join on a test run would be more than welcome. (thinking 7 days roughly - most likely through France, Germany and possibly further once I've researched a bit more).

Thanks in advance
Anyway in the mean time I'd appreciate if you guys could fill in the following questionnaire - and also forward onto any car enthusiasts you think would be interested in a road rally / driving tour. And if anyone is interested in a Europe tour

https://goo.gl/forms/P1xrqeBTBeNSbk9D3

PS: Just skip the first page, if your happy to just fill out the survey.

I've yet to go on a Z4 meet as I've only just bought an e86 and still a newbie but hoping to join a drive next weekend in Yorkshire.

Thanks all
 
If you are on instagram take a look @slapadventures for ideas how your concept could work , he started that page under 2 years ago offering a similar experience & appears to be doing well so demand is obviously there .
Can't beat a good roadtrip , beats a sunbed holiday everytime :driving:
 
Thanks mr wilks, yeh I have a good idea on how I want to set it up, as I’ve toured a few countries myself. But just want to get a consensus on what other people want, and what everyone’s priorities are - hence the questionnaire :)

Will check it out tho. Found another awesome experience by THE GREAT RALLY - but I still think a little expensive, but by no means out of reach
 
Went on The Great Rally in 2016.
I thought it was poorly run and expensive for what it was.
Not much involvement from the organisers.
One example was meeting outside the Merc museum on the Monday morning and then finding out museums close on Monday.
 
The questionnaire was hard work. Several questions had no option I preferred. Good luck with your venture.
 
gerryp said:
Went on The Great Rally in 2016.
I thought it was poorly run and expensive for what it was.
Not much involvement from the organisers.
One example was meeting outside the Merc museum on the Monday morning and then finding out museums close on Monday.
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Yeh I had a look at theirs, there film seemed awesome but agree with you on the expense. Anyway I'm aiming to create something more accessible. My take on it is that most companies are focusing on maximising profit. I'm actually more doing this for my own fun... with profit being secondary to delivering an awesome experience.
 
buzyg said:
The questionnaire was hard work. Several questions had no option I preferred. Good luck with your venture.
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Sorry to here that - please feel free to drop me a PM with any additional thoughts or missing options.
 
Just got my website ready for launch. Feel free to check it out and forward to anyone who you think might be interested.

www.theblackrunrally.com
 
What do you consider the effects of Brexit may be on this adventure? Hard to say I know but worth keeping in mind.
 
shuey said:
Just got my website ready for launch. Feel free to check it out and forward to anyone who you think might be interested.

www.theblackrunrally.com
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website looks good. Clean, simple and to the point :thumbsup:
 
Silverzedtom said:
shuey said:
Just got my website ready for launch. Feel free to check it out and forward to anyone who you think might be interested.

www.theblackrunrally.com
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website looks good. Clean, simple and to the point :thumbsup:
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Thanks man, yeh just trying to get a decent mixture of different cars together at mo. got quite a few interested people from the questionnaire so let’s see how I progress.

Wanted to get a Welsh trip sorted this year, but I think I’ve left it a little late in terms of weather - most interest is for the Dubai and European run next year.
 
Monaco84 said:
Keep in mind that german police does not like groups racing the autobahn :cry:
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Yeh to be honest the aim for me At this stage is to keep it simple and not too gumball like, just means I can keeps costs as low as poss for everyone, and give people the flexibility to not always be in convoy, even though routes will be given etc.

Anyway early days yet
 
mcbutler said:
What do you consider the effects of Brexit may be on this adventure? Hard to say I know but worth keeping in mind.
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Yeh, god dam brexit! I guess I have to play it by ear and see what happens... and if for some reason it can’t happen, there’s always the Dubai trip - and trust me that’s something that would be out of this world for a car guy
 
i filled it out, nice idea. Good luck with it :)

I forgot to add there's certainly different types of tour - long Euro trips - but as you say, also shorter 'lets do evo triangle' weekends, and i'd even argue there's space in the market for a day trip.. regional type driving. i did this myself last saturday, toured a few supercar garages punctuated by 30-60-90mins of fun roads between, narrowly avoided buying a Performante, etcetc.

For single day events cost would probably need to be pretty low for someone to be interested. But if you can do something for relatively low money (~tank of fuel price) and include some organised perks like discount tshirts or similar merch to justify the cost, group lunch booking, destination tour/test drive or something. The profit may be small but you may earn a following (and trust) to entice people on to larger trips. I think having a community of interested people is helpful.

These sort of day events are common on forums (albeit rarer now on Z4-forum), but often don't entice much of a variety of cars and hard to source a decent (10-20) enough number from one forum alone.

Sadly i'm booked up for your Welsh run - coincidentally at a wedding.. in wales.., if you happen to pass through Crickhowell let me know ;)
 
Thanks Jimmy :thumbsup:

I hear you about regional one day trips - certainly something I'll start to promote early Spring - as I tend to go for a drive more or less every other weekend just to discover new roads. As for nearly buying a Performante... brilliant! I'm still a few years off being able to do that yet... as you do!

Yeh I think for me, it's always about a variety of cars, rather than a one make road trip... and the north west is a bit lacking in terms of a mixture of cars taking part.

In terms Wales, I've decided to postpone the welsh run til spring, unfortunately, but positively all the interest is for the European and Dubai trip next year. I'm thinking the weather may be something to do with it too... not sure the floods would have worked in my favour!



jimmybell said:
i filled it out, nice idea. Good luck with it :)

I forgot to add there's certainly different types of tour - long Euro trips - but as you say, also shorter 'lets do evo triangle' weekends, and i'd even argue there's space in the market for a day trip.. regional type driving. i did this myself last saturday, toured a few supercar garages punctuated by 30-60-90mins of fun roads between, narrowly avoided buying a Performante, etcetc.

For single day events cost would probably need to be pretty low for someone to be interested. But if you can do something for relatively low money (~tank of fuel price) and include some organised perks like discount tshirts or similar merch to justify the cost, group lunch booking, destination tour/test drive or something. The profit may be small but you may earn a following (and trust) to entice people on to larger trips. I think having a community of interested people is helpful.

These sort of day events are common on forums (albeit rarer now on Z4-forum), but often don't entice much of a variety of cars and hard to source a decent (10-20) enough number from one forum alone.

Sadly i'm booked up for your Welsh run - coincidentally at a wedding.. in wales.., if you happen to pass through Crickhowell let me know ;)
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