Just had my Z4 20i Mapped to 280BHP by Celtic

I'd say it was, 28i is 245bhp as standard and Celtic Map it to 295bhp, that is a 50bhp gain and should be very noticeable.. not sure why it maps higher than the 20i, some say the ECU is different (engine identical)
superdot said:
Probably not worthwhile doing on a 28i is it?
 
Do they do any sort of test beforehand to see current figures and if there are problems with the engine, or do they simply rock up, do the software upgrade and go? How do they know what power you end up with, for your particular car (or doesn't it work like that)?

The website says they are in Newquay, I'm North Devon so travelling to them would be reasonable.
 
They check out any fault codes on your car to establish if it's good to be tuned. Mine didn't have any so they went straight ahead. Their head office is in Newquay where they have the rolling road facilities and do all the maps, research etc on the rolling road etc, but then they have a mobile van service that visits different parts of the country to carry out remaps at your chosen destination using the map developed for your engine in their head office, that's why there is often a longish wait for home visits- I had to wait a month to get mine done. They won't check your before and after power if you get a home visit, but given the map has been designed for the N20 engine results are likely to be pretty consistent, and besides rolling roads can vary considerably so really not much point getting a rolling road session unless you're looking to see how incremental mods affect your vehicle. Power feels in the range quoted and I'm happy with it, which is all that matters really. Should be there or there abouts, fair few on here with Dyno results around the 280bhp range. If you take to newquay though and get done at their head office I think they will put your car on a Dyno :thumbsup:
ihadablackdog said:
Do they do any sort of test beforehand to see current figures and if there are problems with the engine, or do they simply rock up, do the software upgrade and go? How do they know what power you end up with, for your particular car (or doesn't it work like that)?

The website says they are in Newquay, I'm North Devon so travelling to them would be reasonable.
 
Msport said:
If your map ever gets wiped, for instance if you take it to BMW and they update the software on a routine service, they will come to you and put it back on for £75.

Been planning a re-map for the end of this year, but had never considered it could be wiped?
Is this a fact?
Has anyone had this issue?
Is it a Celtic thing, or will Evolve, for instance, have the same issue (and be prepared to put it back on again?)
 
enuff_zed said:
Msport said:
If your map ever gets wiped, for instance if you take it to BMW and they update the software on a routine service, they will come to you and put it back on for £75.

Been planning a re-map for the end of this year, but had never considered it could be wiped?
Is this a fact?
Has anyone had this issue?
Is it a Celtic thing, or will Evolve, for instance, have the same issue (and be prepared to put it back on again?)

Evolve told me they’d reinstall the map if it got wiped for a small fee :thumbsup:
Rob
 
Msport said:
They check out any fault codes on your car to establish if it's good to be tuned. Mine didn't have any so they went straight ahead. Their head office is in Newquay where they have the rolling road facilities and do all the maps, research etc on the rolling road etc, but then they have a mobile van service that visits different parts of the country to carry out remaps at your chosen destination using the map developed for your engine in their head office, that's why there is often a longish wait for home visits- I had to wait a month to get mine done. They won't check your before and after power if you get a home visit, but given the map has been designed for the N20 engine results are likely to be pretty consistent, and besides rolling roads can vary considerably so really not much point getting a rolling road session unless you're looking to see how incremental mods affect your vehicle. Power feels in the range quoted and I'm happy with it, which is all that matters really. Should be there or there abouts, fair few on here with Dyno results around the 280bhp range. If you take to newquay though and get done at their head office I think they will put your car on a Dyno :thumbsup:
ihadablackdog said:
Do they do any sort of test beforehand to see current figures and if there are problems with the engine, or do they simply rock up, do the software upgrade and go? How do they know what power you end up with, for your particular car (or doesn't it work like that)?

The website says they are in Newquay, I'm North Devon so travelling to them would be reasonable.

Thanks
 
Smartbear said:
enuff_zed said:
Msport said:
If your map ever gets wiped, for instance if you take it to BMW and they update the software on a routine service, they will come to you and put it back on for £75.

Been planning a re-map for the end of this year, but had never considered it could be wiped?
Is this a fact?
Has anyone had this issue?
Is it a Celtic thing, or will Evolve, for instance, have the same issue (and be prepared to put it back on again?)

Evolve told me they’d reinstall the map if it got wiped for a small fee :thumbsup:
Rob

Thanks Rob,
Was hoping you would see this and put my mind at rest.
Is it actually likely to happen do you think?
 
Got mine remapped today. Celtic-approved agent in Sweden. £374 (I know, Sweden...).
I chose to go with the "standard" 2.8i map and not push it more.
Took 15 minutes, done via plugs on the ECU, on the car, no removal, no dismantling.
The difference is quite striking.
 
Busterboo said:
Emailed Celtic, they replied. Then asked them if my extended warranty was safe with a remap. No reply.

I think you’ll find any modifications are going to void warranties Buster, it goes with the territory :?
Rob
 
After a week of driving with the new map I can only say one thing: should have done this long ago.
After 3-4 years of using the car on a daily basis, I got very used to it and there was no longer much excitement about it. Now the excitement is back :D
The missus: "have you done something with the car? the acceleration pedal feels easier to press" :)) She knows or cares nothing about cars :)

One thing that I noticed: the gear change indication seems smarter than i thought it was, it now actually tells to change gears faster than before. For example, it used to ask for 6th gear at 80km/h, now it's somewhere around 75km/h.
I never cared much about fuel consumption, but I did check it before the mod, and I am curious to see how it changes now. Although it might not be very accurate in the beginning, with me getting back at driving sporty pretty much every time :D
 
I just got a quote for £360 for the stage 3 / 280bhp remap. Why are there different prices for different people with the same remap? £295, £320, £360. I don't get it.
 
BeardyJon said:
I just got a quote for £360 for the stage 3 / 280bhp remap. Why are there different prices for different people with the same remap? £295, £320, £360. I don't get it.

I got a quote also for that one and it was over £300.

Incidentally, is the stage two the same map that comes with the 28i or have they tinkered it in some way?
 
I've queried the quote with Celtic, and apparently the price in England is £295 and in Scotland it's £360 for no apparent reason other than they let the Scottish dealer network choose their own price and that's what they went with. :thumbsdown:
 
BeardyJon said:
I've queried the quote with Celtic, and apparently the price in England is £295 and in Scotland it's £360 for no apparent reason other than they let the Scottish dealer network choose their own price and that's what they went with. :thumbsdown:

I’m in Devon, not far from Newquay where they are based. Definitely was over £300, not sure what it would be if I went down to them.
 
Mentioned this in another thread but I queried my insurer (eSure) who said it would cost a measly £16 extra per year for the 280bhp remap. Which is an absolute bargain.
 
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