Not sure if it was the car I was driving or not but it didn't have much theottle response. I had the 3.0 that threw you backwards and I've just sold my mini cooper s that chucked you back and that's 170. I was expecting more from 218. I tried normal driving and o tried reving to 6k fear changes. Is there a power band or am I anretard?
Is the 2.5 really so gutless?
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Definitely not gutless. My 2.5 pulled more than my 3.0, so it must be down to each individual car (or driver!)
I thought the gearing was better in the 2.5 especially between 40-70mph, I just dropped it and it took off.
(It did have 125k on the clock, so perhaps it was just run in better !)
I thought the gearing was better in the 2.5 especially between 40-70mph, I just dropped it and it took off.
(It did have 125k on the clock, so perhaps it was just run in better !)
Mad Professor
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Ive driven a 2,5 and found to be perfectly adequate and enjoyed driving it
For sensible everday road use i'm sure a 2,5 would be good choice
For sensible everday road use i'm sure a 2,5 would be good choice
I have test both, and i can say that 3.0i do have much more torque in low.. But 2.5 is okay too, just make sure that vanos and other things works 100% so you dont lose any of small torque available.
I wish i bought 3.0i , but my car price and condition was top compared to other examples which were for sale.
I wish i bought 3.0i , but my car price and condition was top compared to other examples which were for sale.
My 2.5 and a Cooper S have broadly similar engine and performance stat's but feel worlds apart. The straight six gives a linear torque delivery that always amazes me as it seems to go on and on when you hold a gear, the Cooper S serves it in a shorter sharper punch then demands a change-up, I'd say both are pretty quick when you drive accordingly.
The 2.5 six is a slick tournament boxer, the Cooper S a gruff cage fighter both are very entertaining but not worth trying to compare 8)
The 2.5 six is a slick tournament boxer, the Cooper S a gruff cage fighter both are very entertaining but not worth trying to compare 8)
pre facelift 3.0i (m54b30): 300Nm torque
facelift 2.5si (n52b25): 250Nm torque
So there is a difference in the mid band pulling power (20% difference). The slight difference in final drive won't make up for that. (that also shows in the 0-62 time: 5,9 vs. 6,5 sec).
But if there's a huge difference, there might be something wrong with the engine.
It can also be a trick of your memory. You should really compare them side by side.
facelift 2.5si (n52b25): 250Nm torque
So there is a difference in the mid band pulling power (20% difference). The slight difference in final drive won't make up for that. (that also shows in the 0-62 time: 5,9 vs. 6,5 sec).
But if there's a huge difference, there might be something wrong with the engine.
It can also be a trick of your memory. You should really compare them side by side.
There isn't even much difference between the 3.0si and the 2.5si; even back-to-back. Probably less than a passenger and a full tank of fuel in it.
Did the Sport button do anything? That's the other thing that could have been up - unlikely it was broken but perhaps the throttle map needed resetting.
At the end of the day though, you are looking at a car that's only about as fast as a current "warm hatch".
Did the Sport button do anything? That's the other thing that could have been up - unlikely it was broken but perhaps the throttle map needed resetting.
At the end of the day though, you are looking at a car that's only about as fast as a current "warm hatch".
Longtallhowie
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Dewi said:
Mine too
Comparison between 2.5i and 3.0i:
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1036-1037.htm
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1036-1037.htm
Dewi said:
try this then:
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1036-3648.htm
You can compare any 2 cars
Longtallhowie
Member
I've seen quite a few different performance specs but the majority say the 2.5si manual does 0-60 in 6.5 secs and 149mph top speed. so in the real world not much different to the 3.0si! 
