How many times have you felt like...
- Thread starter PerryGunn
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I don't think that the length of the traffic queue was the issue as all the drivers had already merged into a single lane a bit further back, presumably instructed to do so by road signs, you see this type of behaviour frequently as, IMO, it seems to result in faster overall transit through the bottleneck - it's the arseholes that try to push in at the front that slow everything down :voodoo:pvr said:
Never! As said in stationary/near stationary traffic you should use both lanes to queue, this effectively HALVES the length of the tail back. I'll have been tricking down the near side lane and if anyone tried to argue the toss they've ended up with a copy of the highway code in their face on the pages with information on how to queue in a traffic jam.
There's only one jerk there & they don't drive a merc! The Renault driver deliberately blocked a vehicle for no other reason than they were too thick to actually queue properly. The only thing I can really level at the merc driver is they were going a bit quick for the conditions.
There's only one jerk there & they don't drive a merc! The Renault driver deliberately blocked a vehicle for no other reason than they were too thick to actually queue properly. The only thing I can really level at the merc driver is they were going a bit quick for the conditions.
Paulwirral
Active member
Use both lanes , file in turn , not rocket science but the British do love a queue , merc driver did nothing wrong in my eyes . 
Ok, the driving was a bit quick indeed but the Renault would have been doing the same even if the Merc was doing 10 mph.
It is a strange mentality to block (legally correct) cars. I see the same in airports, people want to queue and if a new passport desk is open - they rather join the queue of an existing one instead of going to a new open lane. Difference between sheep and leaders I guess.
It is a strange mentality to block (legally correct) cars. I see the same in airports, people want to queue and if a new passport desk is open - they rather join the queue of an existing one instead of going to a new open lane. Difference between sheep and leaders I guess.
Liverpool
Never. Although I have been on the receiving end when I've taken the inside lane to come off at a junction just before the queuing traffic when some tosser has decided I should wait in a queue for somewhere I'm not going. Luckily all the cars I've had (or my pig-headedness) have meant I've got around them quite easily by calling their bluff.
I've even been a witness to it...on the A50 when they were creating the new M1/A50 junction. Lorry in the L1 doing 20-30mph with the rest of the traffic in his lane, me in L3 cruising down from a previous 80mph to about 60mph as I'd seen the queuing traffic, van in L2 who I was overtaking until I'd slowed down. I slow down a bit more (no brakes, just engine braking), as I start to drop behind the van still doing about 50mph the lorry swerves out (not for any reason I could see) and the van has no chance to stop or swerve and simply ploughs into the back of the lorry. The back of the van (Luton type) disintegrates as it leaves the chassis and the front of the van disappeared under the back of the lorry. I slammed on, moved into L2 (more traffic behind me in L3) and stopped with my hazards on.
The van driver was VERY lucky as he'd hit the lorry slightly offset so he was injured but not seriously. The lorry driver got out shaking his head mumbling something like "Dozy fekker. Should have effin waited in the effin queue like the effin rest of us".
I gave my statement to the police, but was never contacted after that - and couldn't even find anything in the papers or on the interwebnet - so it must not have counted as a big enough incident to be worth reporting.
I've even been a witness to it...on the A50 when they were creating the new M1/A50 junction. Lorry in the L1 doing 20-30mph with the rest of the traffic in his lane, me in L3 cruising down from a previous 80mph to about 60mph as I'd seen the queuing traffic, van in L2 who I was overtaking until I'd slowed down. I slow down a bit more (no brakes, just engine braking), as I start to drop behind the van still doing about 50mph the lorry swerves out (not for any reason I could see) and the van has no chance to stop or swerve and simply ploughs into the back of the lorry. The back of the van (Luton type) disintegrates as it leaves the chassis and the front of the van disappeared under the back of the lorry. I slammed on, moved into L2 (more traffic behind me in L3) and stopped with my hazards on.
The van driver was VERY lucky as he'd hit the lorry slightly offset so he was injured but not seriously. The lorry driver got out shaking his head mumbling something like "Dozy fekker. Should have effin waited in the effin queue like the effin rest of us".
I gave my statement to the police, but was never contacted after that - and couldn't even find anything in the papers or on the interwebnet - so it must not have counted as a big enough incident to be worth reporting.
Renault driver is a complete twat who needs points on his license for dangerous driving.
Merc driver needs a slap on his wrist regarding the speed at which he's coming down the merger lane.
I've moved over too quick before and get the arsehole when this happens, but it's my own fault for moving over too quick and not using all of the available road.
Anyone who disagrees needs to read the highway code.
Merc driver needs a slap on his wrist regarding the speed at which he's coming down the merger lane.
I've moved over too quick before and get the arsehole when this happens, but it's my own fault for moving over too quick and not using all of the available road.
Anyone who disagrees needs to read the highway code.
To be honest I think the Renault driver was being a bit of a twat. That situation could easily have turned nasty, sometimes you're best just letting drivers like Merc guy go and get on with your life. There will always be selfish a/holes on the roads no matter what, so best just let 'em go imo.
Of course, there's always the chance that the Merc drive could have been trying to get someone to hospital in hurry - ie preggers lady, injured child - We should never automatically assume that drivers like this are being selfish, there may be extenuating circumstances at play.
Of course, there's always the chance that the Merc drive could have been trying to get someone to hospital in hurry - ie preggers lady, injured child - We should never automatically assume that drivers like this are being selfish, there may be extenuating circumstances at play.
mad4slalom
Senior member
There is a point , imo where at it becomes a courtesy thing. there is the school of thought where the queue is shorter if we use both lanes, and the school of thought where if we merge into one queue before the bottleneck then things dont jam up but keep moving, thereby causing less delay. The problem as always is people, pvr says its the difference between sheep and leaders, I think its a bit of both, In an ideal situation ,If we are sensible types, we know the time to merge safely and politely , but on one hand you get mr too nice guy getting into single file too early,so another load of nice guys follow suit, others carry on in lane two because they are way way ahead of the narrowing yet, they merge in plenty of time but nearer the bottleneck,all the time the queue in lane one is growing, leaving sometimes a mile or two of empty lane two. so that is a problem in itself as it is against the advice of the highway code and the drivers barrelling up lane two are not doing anthything wrong, in fact the greatest danger is the difference in speeds of the two lanes if a lane one driver decides he,s had enough of being oevrtaken and pulls out suddenly then it can result in a crash. back to the sensible merging point is where the courtesy thing arises, there are always drivers who are just thick or who dont care and just keep going in lane two just to pass that last car and try to bully their way in, annoying sensibly queuing drivers who then wont let them in, the whole thing escalates into at best a jam or at worst road rage. those that push right to the Very front are not Leaders, to my mind, but pushy or, rude or both and possibly plenty of other things too. as always its down to a bit of common sense, unfortunately not everyone has that 