Help with iphone4 and SMTP

[cj10jeeper]

Guys - nothing car related but I'm out of ideas on this one and there are people way cleverer than me in this feld:

In a nutshell I have a tiscali email account and iphone4. Tiscali don't allow access to their SMTP for mobile phones for security. Something to do with controlling the IP address range.

For the last few years I've simply used my mobile provider, vodafone's, own 360.com service for SMTP. This is now closing down.

Their help desk suggests a gmail account to use for SMPT, so sending all email via smtp.gmail.com, which works perfectly, except it converts all emails from my email address to a gmail account, so you can imaging business clients discard my email as spam, or reply to a gmail account that I don't actually use.

So what can you suggest in the way of a site, or service that will allow me to send emails outbound without converting them and in effect be invisible to recipients?

 

[pvr]

Change the "reply to" address to your real address in the settings for mail.

 

[cj10jeeper]

hey pvr - thanks. Can't see such a setting on my iPhone?

My incoming server is the correct email address, but not sure that's relevant.

 

[playalistic]

You need an "SMTP relay". These guys come recommended:

http://www.authsmtp.com/

But apparently your problem is not un-common and can be solved by using o2's SMTP servers for relay:

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=173

 

[gannet]

Googlemail can be setup to use your own email smtp servers to send your mail - it how mine works. nobody knows I even have a googlemail account

It is hidden away under accounts, I can get more directions if required.

 

[cj10jeeper]

Playalistic - that may be a solution if I can't get google working - thanks

Gannet - this looks like it's exactly what I need if I can 'hide' the google mail account.
Any info would be great.

 

[pvr]

That was the free advice. The rest is chargeable

 

[cj10jeeper]

That was the free advice. The rest is chargeable

I can't afford your rates....

 

[wegras]

or consider getting your own Domain but only use for email .........gives a little exclusivity amazingly cheap and it's your's until you surrender the domain or stop paying

 

[sp3ctre]

I come across this issue all the time as I sell hosting and email packages. Years ago I always recommended setting SMTP to be the ISP's server but over the last few year (like you said) they have started to do all sorts to make life difficult. Nowadays I just advice to relay via their own domain on my servers, although the gmail solution should also work

I wouldn't mind but there is complete inconsistency between ISP's, they seem to make it up as they go along!

 

[cj10jeeper]

Actually I have my own domain, but for various reasons can't use it and need to be able to send personal emails and business emails to and from a variety of email addresses and providers.

Hope I can get the Gmail solution working.

 

[wegras]

Tiscali still causing pain even from the grave

 

[gannet]

Gannet - this looks like it's exactly what I need if I can 'hide' the google mail account.
Any info would be great.

Sure

Sign into Googlemail in your browser...

on the Mail screen, top right click the cog wheel and choose 'Mail Settings'

then choose 'Accounts and Import'

on that screen there is a section called 'Send mail as' with a link to 'learn more' underneath... you basically need your SMTP server and login name and password, and optionally a different port to use.

after you have set one up you can then make that the 'default' account that is used to send mail.

Crikey Ive just looked at mine and seen I have 9 separate email addresses I can send from not including googlemail I do have three domains though

Hope this helps

 

[Z4 Beemer]

... Gannet, but I think it says something like via the Gmail address unless you use another smtp server...?

 

[cj10jeeper]

Thanks guys - will get onto it in the morning again as didn't seem to if d the google settings referred to.

Edit - playalistic. I think you win
Seems I already had an 02 account from the early iPhone days. Used their smtp and it passes email seamlessly without changing it. Few more test, but looki g good

Gannet - ill get gmail working as a backup server.

 

[gannet]

... Gannet, but I think it says something like via the Gmail address unless you use another smtp server...?

yes if you use google's smtp server it will say 'on behalf of ....' but I use my own from one of my domain hosts, so completely transparent

cj - drop me a line if you still can't find the settings

 

[cj10jeeper]

Gannet - looks like I have a working solution in O2.
Tested it on wireless and 3G and works both ways.
Bit of a delay if you send a test message via O2 receiving it back to the originating Tiscali account, but I assume that's because O2 locks the account.

Let's see how it goes as I have a few iPhone to now sort.

Thanks everyone - great to have this support for non Zed related stuff