Zedebee said:Preferably bi-Xenons in good condition.
kis said:Zedebee said:Preferably bi-Xenons in good condition.
Why preferably? My understanding was Halogen and Xenon are not interchangeable?
I'm also not sure that the pre-facelifts came in bi-xenon?
Good luck with the search, xenons aren't that common and always fetch a premium. Although there seem to be a few on ebay at the moment. Hovering around the same price as Halogens... £200 ish (each)!

Umfaan said:I have a pair off a 2004 E85 . But they are Halogen and with the orange Hockey stick. £320.00 + postage.
Zedebee said:Preferably, because I have bi-xenons at the moment and don’t want to downgrade them, but I do want the orange hockey sticks.
I was assuming that the complete units were interchangeable, but that you couldn’t readily switch parts between the two. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
RealOEM suggests many variants for pre-facelift, including non chrome (I assume this is the black reflector) and chrome; orange hockey stick and clear; bi-xenon and halogen, in any combination. Only clear hockey sticks were offered with post-facelift / E86.
There are several singles on eBay, but not a pair that I want![]()
kis said:Zedebee said:Preferably, because I have bi-xenons at the moment and don’t want to downgrade them, but I do want the orange hockey sticks.
I was assuming that the complete units were interchangeable, but that you couldn’t readily switch parts between the two. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
RealOEM suggests many variants for pre-facelift, including non chrome (I assume this is the black reflector) and chrome; orange hockey stick and clear; bi-xenon and halogen, in any combination. Only clear hockey sticks were offered with post-facelift / E86.
There are several singles on eBay, but not a pair that I want![]()
So you have clear bi-xenons at present? For the E86? So Silver?
I wanted to use the facelift bi-xenon shell for my upgrade but it's not really interchangeable. Facelift bi-xenon doesn't have a halogen bulb for the Main Beam (uses the Xenon). The facelift lights have 7 pins used (out of the 8) while the pre-facelifts have all 8 pins used. So thus my theory you can't interchange unless you can code it out/in via the LCM (not investigated this).
If you really want the amber, then simplest way is to get it wrapped with some translucent orange wrap. Much like when some people add fly-eye. Failing that option, cut and shut is your best option IMO. I'm doing the latter as it'll enable me to add some customisation such as duel angels, etc.
Umfaan said:I have a pair off a 2004 E85 . But they are Halogen and with the orange Hockey stick. £320.00 + postage.
Umfaan said:Umfaan said:I have a pair off a 2004 E85 . But they are Halogen and with the orange Hockey stick. £320.00 + postage.
Hi .........They are in good condition .....i am removing them from the car in the morning and will post some pictures .
Zedebee said:kis said:Zedebee said:Preferably, because I have bi-xenons at the moment and don’t want to downgrade them, but I do want the orange hockey sticks.
I was assuming that the complete units were interchangeable, but that you couldn’t readily switch parts between the two. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
RealOEM suggests many variants for pre-facelift, including non chrome (I assume this is the black reflector) and chrome; orange hockey stick and clear; bi-xenon and halogen, in any combination. Only clear hockey sticks were offered with post-facelift / E86.
There are several singles on eBay, but not a pair that I want![]()
So you have clear bi-xenons at present? For the E86? So Silver?
I wanted to use the facelift bi-xenon shell for my upgrade but it's not really interchangeable. Facelift bi-xenon doesn't have a halogen bulb for the Main Beam (uses the Xenon). The facelift lights have 7 pins used (out of the 8) while the pre-facelifts have all 8 pins used. So thus my theory you can't interchange unless you can code it out/in via the LCM (not investigated this).
If you really want the amber, then simplest way is to get it wrapped with some translucent orange wrap. Much like when some people add fly-eye. Failing that option, cut and shut is your best option IMO. I'm doing the latter as it'll enable me to add some customisation such as duel angels, etc.
Many thanks for the advice, that saves me having to find out the hard way.![]()
kis said:If you wanted to take a look in person, I have a spare halogen, pre facelift xenon and facelift xenon at home. Welcome to test them out on the car, but yes I don't think its quite as simple as the Halogen plug and play between pre and post facelift (unfortunately).