G29 Technical Enhancement Notices

[Jim S]

My dealer tells me that two Technical Enhancements (not recalls) have recently been issued by BMW for all G29 models in the UK:-

1) Program control units (DME)
2) Replacing the seat occupancy mat

The first one seems fairly straightforward but beware of the second one as it involves removing the passenger seat, stripping off the upholstery and fitting a new seat mat and sensor, then putting it all back together. The dealer cannot guarantee that it will all be put back as original, so I have declined this one as it is not safety related. It has something to do with the sensor to detect occupancy of the passenger seat when the seat belt has not been fastened.

 

[Jim S]

Actually, what the dealer said to me about the seats is "we are not upholsterers and the seats are never the same after the leather upholstery is removed and put back on again". :thumbsdown:

The dealer also explained that the problem only occurs if the passenger seat belt has not been fastened and I never drive off without the seat belts of both occupants being engaged. More importantly, I don't want my new car dismantled and rebuilt in this way if it is not really necessary. :roll:

 

[buzyg]

Actually, what the dealer said to me about the seats is "we are not upholsterers and the seats are never the same after the leather upholstery is removed and put back on again". :thumbsdown:

The dealer also explained that the problem only occurs if the passenger seat belt has not been fastened and I never drive off without the seat belts of both occupants being engaged. More importantly, I don't want my new car dismantled and rebuilt in this way if it is not really necessary. :roll:

Sounds like it may cause an alarm, if you place a bag of shopping or heavy coat on the seat and don't fasten the seat belt.

 

[Jim S]

Actually, what the dealer said to me about the seats is "we are not upholsterers and the seats are never the same after the leather upholstery is removed and put back on again". :thumbsdown:

The dealer also explained that the problem only occurs if the passenger seat belt has not been fastened and I never drive off without the seat belts of both occupants being engaged. More importantly, I don't want my new car dismantled and rebuilt in this way if it is not really necessary. :roll:

Sounds like it may cause an alarm, if you place a bag of shopping or heavy coat on the seat and don't fasten the seat belt.

Actually buzyg, it might not. The bag might not be heavy enough to register and that is the reason for the technical enhancement notice. It needs something or somebody quite heavy to register. If your wife is very light you won't be able to take her in the car - only joking but that serves to highlight the extent of the problem.

 

[Nictrix]

I dont know how these systems work but if the car doesnt detect someone sitting in the passenger seat and you are in an accident does the passenger airbag still go off?
Or another way to put it, if you are in the car yourself in an accident does the passenger airbag go off?
If it doesnt, how would the insurance react to this recall not being carried out if you had a passenger who was injured and the airbag didnt go off?

 

[Jim S]

I dont know how these systems work but if the car doesnt detect someone sitting in the passenger seat and you are in an accident does the passenger airbag still go off?
Or another way to put it, if you are in the car yourself in an accident does the passenger airbag go off?
If it doesnt, how would the insurance react to this recall not being carried out if you had a passenger who was injured and the airbag didnt go off?

Good point. My understanding is that if no passenger is detected the passenger airbag won't go off. If the seatbelt is fastened the passenger is detected irrespective of their weight. If the seatbelt is not fastened the passenger may or may not be detected - that seems to be the issue, it all depends on their weight.
For me, I always make sure both the driver and passenger seat belts are fastened before moving off.

 

[TitanTim]

No idea but could it be a potential MOT failure in future if the recall work hasn't been done? In some ways it could be argued its a safety related recall if concerning airbag deploy and wether there is doubt concerning its correct operation :?

Tim.

 

[Jim S]

If it could affect future MOT’s then I would have to get it completed in my car. However, the dealer says it is not a recall and is not safety related.

 

[ronk]

I’m sorry to read that you’re having issues with the new car.
Ok teething problems they may be for BMW but you’ve spent your hard earned cash and I’m sure it’s knocked the shine off the new car.

 

[Jim S]

I’m sorry to read that you’re having issues with the new car.
Ok teething problems they may be for BMW but you’ve spent your hard earned cash and I’m sure it’s knocked the shine off the new car.

Yes ronk I agree. You expect much more from a £52.5k car or even one costing half of that. :thumbsdown:

 

[ronk]

I also think that to suggest an update/fix will result in a less than perfect cosmetic result has gone beyond silly!

 

[Bing]

I’d be asking them to just provide a brand new seat. They can send the old one back to the factory to be repaired, by proper upholsterers.

 

[Jim S]

I’d be asking them to just provide a brand new seat. They can send the old one back to the factory to be repaired, by proper upholsterers.

Oh, I'm afraid they won't do that as it would cost too much. Most, if not all, customers would prefer a new seat. Easier for the dealer too. :thumbsdown:

 

[ronk]

If it’s refitted but imperfectly now, then give it a few years of use and it may look tatty - not what you’d expect in a £50k car.

I would still say that they can’t offer a repair/rectification that they cannot complete in a professional manner to as new or even as they received it, is just not on. - Close enough isn’t good enough on a brand spanking new car.

 

[TitanTim]

I dont know what it is with German cars but I've come to the conclusion the perceived quality is there on the surface but underneath it's not that great at times. Most cars I've had from new BWW, Audi's, VAGs have had some issue whether mechanical or trim issues or paint damage or minor scuffs from the factory, big turn off when your paying for supposedly premium quality.

My little Hyundai i10 that cost 13k from new was delivered perfect, no issues and hasn't missed a heartbeat. Maybe I've just been unlucky with German cars but I will be swapping for another Hyundai when the time comes. I know the badge snobs turn their noses up at the likes of Hyundai but these days I prefer cars that do the job with the least possible hassle. I guess it depends whether you enjoy sitting in the dealership drinking their fancy coffee for hours on end

Tim.

 

[ph001]

I can’t possible see how it would result in an MOT failure or affect the insurance validity, however it will show up in big bold letters in the government online MOT checker that there are recalls outstanding, which could potentially put off prospective buyers if you ever came to selling.

 

[ronk]

I dont know what it is with German cars but I've come to the conclusion the perceived quality is there on the surface but underneath it's not that great at times. Most cars I've had from new BWW, Audi's, VAGs have had some issue whether mechanical or trim issues or paint damage or minor scuffs from the factory, big turn off when your paying for supposedly premium quality.

My little Hyundai i10 that cost 13k from new was delivered perfect, no issues and hasn't missed a heartbeat. Maybe I've just been unlucky with German cars but I will be swapping for another Hyundai when the time comes. I know the badge snobs turn their noses up at the likes of Hyundai but these days I prefer cars that do the job with the least possible hassle. I guess it depends whether you enjoy sitting in the dealership drinking their fancy coffee for hours on end

Tim.

But you’ve still got the 135 tucked away in the garage ?

 

[TitanTim]

I dont know what it is with German cars but I've come to the conclusion the perceived quality is there on the surface but underneath it's not that great at times. Most cars I've had from new BWW, Audi's, VAGs have had some issue whether mechanical or trim issues or paint damage or minor scuffs from the factory, big turn off when your paying for supposedly premium quality.

My little Hyundai i10 that cost 13k from new was delivered perfect, no issues and hasn't missed a heartbeat. Maybe I've just been unlucky with German cars but I will be swapping for another Hyundai when the time comes. I know the badge snobs turn their noses up at the likes of Hyundai but these days I prefer cars that do the job with the least possible hassle. I guess it depends whether you enjoy sitting in the dealership drinking their fancy coffee for hours on end

Tim.

But you’ve still got the 135 tucked away in the garage ?

I have yes Ron, well a M140i Just had its first MOT at 712 mies :lol: I haven't used it enough to show up any faults yet I'am planning on keeping it though so when everyone sells theirs and rushes out to buy the new 4cyl model and regret it I can sell it for a tidy sum

I'll be changing the little i10 though hopefully later in the year, either for a Kona or Tuscon. Been really impressed with the brand and the local dealer, plus they don't break down :?

Tim.

 

[ronk]

712 Miles not even bedded in!

The scary Calc is how much £ / mile - I did the Calc when I was considering an M40i - needless to say it’s not going to happen at this point.
I’ve done 9k in 33 months so heaven knows what your figure will be

My guesstimate is about £28 / mile

 

[Jim S]

My little Hyundai i10 that cost 13k from new was delivered perfect, no issues and hasn't missed a heartbeat. Maybe I've just been unlucky with German cars but I will be swapping for another Hyundai when the time comes. I know the badge snobs turn their noses up at the likes of Hyundai but these days I prefer cars that do the job with the least possible hassle. I guess it depends whether you enjoy sitting in the dealership drinking their fancy coffee for hours on end

Tim.

Yes Tim, there are plenty of other, shall we say, less respected brands out there that actually perform exceptionally well. Just a few years ago I bought my wife a new Hyundai iX20 and followed it with a new i40. Both of these cars gave us absolutely no problems in the 3+ years that we owned them. She has now moved on to the Nissan Qashqai and is driving her second one now. Both have performed very well with absolutely no problems at all.

I have been a loyal BMW fan for many years, always purchasing them brand new and the way I feel at the moment the M40i may be my last BMW. I would be quite happy moving to a top of the range Nissan, Hyundai, or other similar brand. It would save me a fortune and I'm sure I would be quite happy driving it.