Fuel Injectors

Machine monkey

Lifer
 In the shire Oxfordshire
Anyone know if the s54 and m54 injectors are the same? If the s54 injectors flow more does anyone have a set I can borrow?
 
Looking at the pics Mat, I don't think they'd even fit into an M54, as the O rings and nozzle end look to be completely different.

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Does no-one do "uprated" M54 injectors?

Thinking about it, probably not, as I can't see the demand with it being normally aspirated. Possibly the 35i/s ones?

Mike
 
i have a set for sale if you interested???

the z4m injectors operate at a much higher fuel pressure i believe...... i removed mine for the upgrade to the vt2 setup....which came with ANOTHER new set of injectors :| And the injectors for these cars are not cheap.
 
Beedub said:
i have a set for sale if you interested???

the z4m injectors operate at a much higher fuel pressure i believe...... i removed mine for the upgrade to the vt2 setup....which came with ANOTHER new set of injectors :| And the injectors for these cars are not cheap.

They all operate at 3 bar but I will be putting in a adjustable fuel regulator and much bigger pump anyway. So that's not the issue. The issue is the ohms they operate at is different. I need to find out if that is a problem or programable with my ecu or if that's even possible or even a problem?? And if they even physically fit. How much would you want for them?
 
You must be able to buy uprated ones for the m54, people have been supercharging them for years?
 
You can, but they ain't cheap, although cheaper than new OEM from BMW..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-BMW-M54-M52-450cc-High-Performance-Fuel-Injectors-Flow-Matched-Set-/270697032580


Mike
 
RedUn said:
You must be able to buy uprated ones for the m54, people have been supercharging them for years?

Are you sure they need to be uprated, can't you just increase the duty cycle of them in the mapping table?Rob
 
As said above you can buy them. But I am on a budget. It looks like the s54 ones won't be worth doing either. Unless they where almost free as the gain is minimal.

Yes I can increase the duty cycle and will be. As well as boosting the pressure supplied to them but again this has issues. The 3rd nasty option is to add a couple of injectors but this would have to be before the TB as it's the only place I could weld in bungs. My piggy back will run them but it's a bit of a farm yard solution!

I will keep searching for a deal. And researching. Hopefully find out that something off another car will fit. We had to do similar with coils and injectors on the supra.
 
Machine monkey said:
Beedub said:
i have a set for sale if you interested???

the z4m injectors operate at a much higher fuel pressure i believe...... i removed mine for the upgrade to the vt2 setup....which came with ANOTHER new set of injectors :| And the injectors for these cars are not cheap.

They all operate at 3 bar but I will be putting in a adjustable fuel regulator and much bigger pump anyway. So that's not the issue. The issue is the ohms they operate at is different. I need to find out if that is a problem or programable with my ecu or if that's even possible or even a problem?? And if they even physically fit. How much would you want for them?

make an offer thats reasonable and you can have them :-) i may be wrong but i though the s54 fuel system in the z4m ran at 5 bar???
 
Beedub said:
Machine monkey said:
Beedub said:
i have a set for sale if you interested???

the z4m injectors operate at a much higher fuel pressure i believe...... i removed mine for the upgrade to the vt2 setup....which came with ANOTHER new set of injectors :| And the injectors for these cars are not cheap.

They all operate at 3 bar but I will be putting in a adjustable fuel regulator and much bigger pump anyway. So that's not the issue. The issue is the ohms they operate at is different. I need to find out if that is a problem or programable with my ecu or if that's even possible or even a problem?? And if they even physically fit. How much would you want for them?

make an offer thats reasonable and you can have them :-) i may be wrong but i though the s54 fuel system in the z4m ran at 5 bar???

You could be right. I need to research more as sparently you can't trust all you read on the internet. I will keep looking Beedub and when I know more I will make you an offer. Thanks :thumbsup:
 
Machine monkey said:
Beedub said:
Machine monkey said:
They all operate at 3 bar but I will be putting in a adjustable fuel regulator and much bigger pump anyway. So that's not the issue. The issue is the ohms they operate at is different. I need to find out if that is a problem or programable with my ecu or if that's even possible or even a problem?? And if they even physically fit. How much would you want for them?

make an offer thats reasonable and you can have them :-) i may be wrong but i though the s54 fuel system in the z4m ran at 5 bar???

You could be right. I need to research more as sparently you can't trust all you read on the internet. I will keep looking Beedub and when I know more I will make you an offer. Thanks :thumbsup:


what ever happens, id run a walbro or aeromotive in tank, hell even the z4m unit if it works, swap out the FPR and use the z4m injectors, the stock injectors are still used on some of the base kits which run 430 hp....
 
Worth a punt:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/42LB-Siemens-Deka-Fuel-Injector-Upgrade-BMW-Turbo-E39-E46-Z3-Z4-M54-Set-of-6-/252968027562
 
Mister T said:
Worth a punt:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/42LB-Siemens-Deka-Fuel-Injector-Upgrade-BMW-Turbo-E39-E46-Z3-Z4-M54-Set-of-6-/252968027562

They would have been!! But fold now. Looks like I have found a soloution £180 and I think that's not to bad. They are remanafactured injectors that will support 400+ Bhp
 
I think you could get some a lot cheaper. Volvo S40 turbo injectors are 440cc and should be a direct fit - just need to find 2 sets:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-Volvo-S40-V40-T4-fuel-Injectors-sport-lux-SE-6900371-Siemens-details-/232357027480?hash=item36198ede98:g:9ugAAOSwX61ZCPJR

Siemens 6900371 cheap as chips :)
 
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