Four Months on the New Non-RFT Tires. My thoughts.
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Shipkiller
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BlueMoon said:
The Potenza RFT and General Exclaim UHP are classified as SUMMER tires and are NOT made to be driven in the snow. The manufactures do not recommend driving on them in temps less than 40'.
I have driven my car on the Generals down to about 27' and for a normal sedate commuter drive, they are fine. Just don't think you will take that off ramp at 70MPH at temps below 40' like you would in the summer.....
If you want to be able to drive in the summer and snow, then you want All Seasons, or do what some on the board here do and have one set for summer and one for winter.
Edit, Alan posted that comment right before I posted mine..... and did not see his remarks..
Guys, I honestly can't fault the run flat tyres on both the 120 and Z4. I'm running 17 inch rims on both cars but would love to have 18's on the zed, so will consider this when it comes time to replacing the tyres. Clearly, choice of tyre is a personal preference but I have no problem at all with the ride, wear, noise or performance in the wet.
I dunno, maybe you guys have really sensitive bums!!
Phil
I dunno, maybe you guys have really sensitive bums!!
Phil
I also have about four months on my non runflats (F-1 GS D3's) and absolutely LOVE them! 
No way will I go back. I just came off an 850 mile road trip which was mostly highway with interspersed two lane pot holed roads and some twisties. All around better performance, handling, and ride quality than the RFTs.
The RFTs were so harsh that I could not put anythiing in the drink holder that didn't have a screw on lid or I would wear it!
Plus, (before I made the switch) I found out the hard way that the availability of replacement RFTs is quite low and the replacement cost is still higher than even the F-1's!
No way will I go back. I just came off an 850 mile road trip which was mostly highway with interspersed two lane pot holed roads and some twisties. All around better performance, handling, and ride quality than the RFTs.
The RFTs were so harsh that I could not put anythiing in the drink holder that didn't have a screw on lid or I would wear it!
Plus, (before I made the switch) I found out the hard way that the availability of replacement RFTs is quite low and the replacement cost is still higher than even the F-1's!
I ran GSD2s on my MGF and got 76,000 kms from them, which amazed not just me, but a lot of folks who thought I'd only get about 40,000k's. The trick I found, if you can call it a trick, is to rotate them regularly, say every 5000kms or so. The other important bit is that my rims were all the same size, so rotating fronts to rears was not a problem.Kurts05Z4 said:I also have about four months on my non runflats (F-1 GS D3's) and absolutely LOVE them!
No way will I go back. I just came off an 850 mile road trip which was mostly highway with interspersed two lane pot holed roads and some twisties. All around better performance, handling, and ride quality than the RFTs.
The RFTs were so harsh that I could not put anythiing in the drink holder that didn't have a screw on lid or I would wear it!
Plus, (before I made the switch) I found out the hard way that the availability of replacement RFTs is quite low and the replacement cost is still higher than even the F-1's!
I'd like to ask you guys who now prefer non RFTs, are you running standard suspension on your cars, or have you had it lowered, either by after market or as an option when you bought the car new? One of the options when I ordered my zed, was to get it lowered by 10 or 15mm but I didn't go for that option because I thought the ride would be too harsh even with 17" rims, but the standard setting is fine. Anyway, just wondered if all of the zed owners out there who have gone over to the non RFTs, are running a standard or lowered setup.
I am running Eibach Prokit lowering springs, have done about 7000 miles on stock setup Falken 452's and about 3000 miles on eibachs with Falken 452's, firstly these tyres are soooo under rated it's not true, secondly the car is awesome on these and eibach springs, i was at the nurburgring two weeks ago and the car got well tested with this set-up.....i can't fault it...got another couple of track days booked over the coming months, cadwell and croft, can't wait to get to grips with this set-up.... 
ZeroGravity
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on the topic of non-runflat tires... anyone have tried the Pirelli PZero Nero? Are they any good?
Not to change/hide/derail Zero's post, I just thought I would comment about the Falken 452's in the rain.
Purely perfection.
I did a slight mixture of in city driving with mostly highway driving. Anyways, I turned traction control off in city and got on it a little bit, and had some wheel slippage (to be expected) but not much more than if it would of been on dry pavement. That said I did make the back end slide out a little on a couple on ramps :? Even still, definitly some tires that handle wet as well as dry. Later around my uncles ended up driving through some standing water on just the right side and oddly enough it didn't pull the car too much to the side. I must not of been going fast enough....though I try not to mess around with standing water.
Highway driving was very sure footed, I didn't do a real hard swerve but I did enough to know that the tires would most likely grab no matter what. The car felt very sure of itself at all speeds from 60-90mph. I will confess this wasn't in a all out downpour but for me never driving this car (and the 452's) in the rain it was perfect for what I wanted. Which was to find out how it handles in the wet.
Purely perfection.
I did a slight mixture of in city driving with mostly highway driving. Anyways, I turned traction control off in city and got on it a little bit, and had some wheel slippage (to be expected) but not much more than if it would of been on dry pavement. That said I did make the back end slide out a little on a couple on ramps :?
Even still, definitly some tires that handle wet as well as dry. Later around my uncles ended up driving through some standing water on just the right side and oddly enough it didn't pull the car too much to the side. I must not of been going fast enough....though I try not to mess around with standing water. Highway driving was very sure footed, I didn't do a real hard swerve but I did enough to know that the tires would most likely grab no matter what. The car felt very sure of itself at all speeds from 60-90mph. I will confess this wasn't in a all out downpour but for me never driving this car (and the 452's) in the rain it was perfect for what I wanted. Which was to find out how it handles in the wet.