First pics of our lovely new Estoril E89

[Pondy]

Do you have a picture of your old piece?

No Robbi, I don't. The old one never had water in so I never needed to photograph it! It could be that the old car had the foam removed and modified at some point, but then the pump would have been suspended in mid air, which it wasn't. I don't know. All I do know is I couldn't get the foam out from around the pump without ripping it as the pump is sitting on it and the previous car's foam was easy to remove. Ironic really, as the old one never needed removing but this one did!

 

[RobbiZ4]

Well, sometimes the foam is actually caked onto/below the pump. Then the base often tears off when the pump is lifted and a hole is created.

You should do the plastic bag trick.

Just throw an eye on the E89 Maintenance threadv
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130932

 

[JakeS76]

A private sale gives you Zero consumer rights in the UK. When I buy privately I factor a 2k slush fund into the price in case of problems like you've unfortunately experienced. I hope it all gets sorted without too much expense and you get to enjoy the car

 

[Pondy]

A private sale gives you Zero consumer rights in the UK. When I buy privately I factor a 2k slush fund into the price in case of problems like you've unfortunately experienced. I hope it all gets sorted without too much expense and you get to enjoy the car

The car is now sorted with no more leaks. Thanks, though!

 

[obewan]

I've just come across this thread and as the 'guy' who vouched for the car I'm a little shocked at the some of the accusations made.

I don't want to get into a tennis match, but having known (and previously worked with) the seller for a number of years, he is a million miles from the person being portrayed.

I can't comment on the speaker issue (first I've heard of it) - maybe an innocent mistake as already mentioned, but on the water ingress, my understanding is as follows:

Prior to the sale there were numerous emails, WhatsApp messages and videos sent to Pondrew in response to his questions.
In one of his messages, Pondrew asked if there was any water in the boot.
Seller went out to check, and admittedly didn't check properly as was 'sure' there wasn't, (as the battery was changed a few months earlier) and only quickly looked in the area around the battery not LH side under the pump

Talking to him recently, he's annoyed with himself that he didn't check fully. He's been advised that the water ingress is typical of a car washed regularly with a hose or pressure washer - this adds up as the car was lovingly looked after and cleaned weekly, hence why I had no hesitation in recommending it.

I'm sorry you weren't happy with the car Pondrew, but I can assure you there was no deliberate intent by the seller to mislead.

 

[Pondy]

I'm sorry you weren't happy with the car Pondrew, but I can assure you there was no deliberate intent by the seller to mislead.

It is now 'water under the bridge' (excuse the pun).
I paid a very high price for the car, as I was led to believe it was the very best E89 out there. It isn't. I paid £3,500 more than I sold our previous E89 for just a few months before. That car was in better condition inside and out with just a few thousand more miles on it.
So, yes, I was extremely annoyed when I found the battery compartment swimming in an inch of water, and water dripping from the windscreen seal into the cabin.

I was also led to believe the car had the top spec sound system. It doesn't. It has the basic one. I also specifically asked the seller to keep the battery charged as I knew the car wasn't being used. On the second day of ownership the battery was almost flat and came up with a warning!

I believe now the seller was a little naive about how best to look after an E89. Maybe I was also naive to think other people are as particular as I am?

We are happy with the car so far, as I have addressed the water and battery issues. I just didn't expect to be pumping water out of such an expensive car within minutes of it being delivered.

 

[Pondy]

I'm a little shocked at the some of the accusations made.

There were no 'accusations' made. Everything I said is the truth. I don't lie when it comes to things car-related (only lie at work). :wink:

 

[BeardyJon]

I've just come across this thread and as the 'guy' who vouched for the car I'm a little shocked at the some of the accusations made.

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I'm sorry you weren't happy with the car Pondrew, but I can assure you there was no deliberate intent by the seller to mislead.

To be fair to the OP, there were numerous issues that he asked about and he was given incorrect info about each one, not just the water ingress issue that the previous owner 'forgot' to check. So imo it's pretty reasonable to conclude that the previous owner might have been deliberately trying to mislead OP to make a sale.