Finally got around to doing my VANOS... Pic heavy...

Ducklakeview

Lifer
 Merseyside
Ok, so have had the kit for a couple of weeks, went for the I6 Automotive one, and bought the DISA valve repair and anti-rattle rings at the same time. Also ordered a new cam cover and VANOS gasket. I also wanted fit the new water pump I've had for months, as I suspected it of leaking ever so slightly..

So, car on the ramp and up in the air to remove the undertray :)

Now I have seen mention that the job is VERY tight on the E85, due to the limited access in front of the engine, for sliding the VANOS unit of it's (long) studs. Now I had a nose at the studs and could see only a mm or so protruding from the nuts on them, so doubted I'd be able to get my roller stud removal tools on them, so I had to think laterally...

Decided to remove the BOTTOM engine mount nuts, as they are easily accessible through the wishbones :) I then lowered the car and used a trolley jack and a length of 3x3 to raise the engine on the sump between the rack and the anti roll bar.. I thought I'd have to remove the inlet trunking, but all was ok and no hoses/cables were strained.

I think the insides of my engine look pretty clean for 62k, no signs at all of sludge etc. The old cam cover gasket was ROCK hard and fell to pieces in my hands, no wonder it has been leaking at the back! The bits left over the spark plug tubes also fell to pieces as I removed them!

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Before, the VANOS sits like this;

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After, it is raised into this position;

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Removed all the nuts & bolts NOTE; Beisan guides say there are SIX nuts/bolts holding the VANOS unit to the engine, there are in fact SEVEN! One is tucked away underneath next to the CPS! The only extra item I had to remove was to undo the lower rad hose from the thermostat housing (just pull the clip and slide it off) as the inlet VANOS solenoid was fouling it and the temp sensor connection on the hose, as per pic;

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After doing that, the VANOS simply slides EASILY off!!

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Then I stripped it down, and before cleaning it I took the opportunity to see just how loose the pistons were in the chambers, they were VERY loose, with NO discernible friction between the seals and the housings. I reckon the oil has been pi$$ing past them!

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Cleaned it all up and fitted the new seals as per the guide, bedding them in for 10 mins, after this the pistons were MUCH tighter in the bores, requiring two finger pressure to move them! Didn't take any pics as that bit is straight forward, as per the guide, the teflon outer rings are tough, but they do give enough to get them on.

Took the opportunity to replace the water pump whilst I left the seals "bedding in";

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Old one was a PIG to get off, but then I noticed the two "extra" threaded holes in the new one, so used two of the thermostat housing bolts into the holes on the old one to "push" it out of the block. Interestingly, the old (I presume original) one had a plastic impellar, whereas the new Meyle one has an alloy one..

All back together, nice and easy, got the cam cover on, but ran out of time :( and had to get to the shop - So will finish tomorrow afternoon and update!

Job nowhere near as difficult as I expected it to be to be honest!

Mike
 
Nice one mike :thumbsup:
Remember when i replaced my waterpump and stat that the pump was a bastid to wrangle out.
As per urs, mine was also a plastic impeller too and replaced it with a metal impeller jobby and flushed the coolant while i was at it.
Cured the overheating issue i was experiencing even on the warmest days sat in traffic.
I'm delaying fiddling with my vanos tho until i experience definite issues....
 
Chris_D said:
Nice one mike :thumbsup:
Remember when i replaced my waterpump and stat that the pump was a bastid to wrangle out.
As per urs, mine was also a plastic impeller too and replaced it with a metal impeller jobby and flushed the coolant while i was at it.
Cured the overheating issue i was experiencing even on the warmest days sat in traffic.
I'm delaying fiddling with my vanos tho until i experience definite issues....

Chris, judging by the piss poor fit of the pistons in their housings, I reckon my VANOS was pretty much inoperative. I'm therefore expecting to notice the difference in low end torque immediately..

Will let you know.

Seeing as the kids are off, and multiple cousins are staying over at our house, I think I'll be in the garage when I get home at 11pm finishing it!!

Mike
 
Ok, so finished the job last night, was late by the time I was done (1am) so didn't bother with the road test..

Have come to work in the car this morning - WHAT a difference! Idle is now COMPLETELY smooth and silky, and that little rattle noise I had has gone completely, more importantly though is the newly found "low end" grunt... It's like a different car!!!

Well worth doing for the costs and time involved! Just goes to show that even with a failing/failed VANOS system, the M54 can still appear to run fine...

Mike
 
Ducklakeview said:
Ok, so finished the job last night, was late by the time I was done (1am) so didn't bother with the road test..

Have come to work in the car this morning - WHAT a difference! Idle is now COMPLETELY smooth and silky, and that little rattle noise I had has gone completely, more importantly though is the newly found "low end" grunt... It's like a different car!!!

Well worth doing for the costs and time involved! Just goes to show that even with a failing/failed VANOS system, the M54 can still appear to run fine...

Mike

Same as wearing out tyres, you don't notice as it's so gradual until you come to fit new boots and....whoa..how much better does this car feel.

Top job on the vanos, brill pics. :thumbsup:
 
I did this on my 2.2 last year and mine were not really that lose however it did make a difference. I also cleaned out both the activation solenoids at the same time and found a bit of sludge in there.
Didn't jack the engine up on mine I removed the front bumper and undid one side of the cross member which allowed just enough room to get the cover off.
 
One thought I've had about this...

I presume, that when the VANOS is actually working correctly, then the majority, if not all of the oil that is pumped into the VANOS piston cylinders as the solenoids open, is contained within those cylinders, yes?

Therefore, if said cylinders are leaking due to failed/failing seals, then the oil will simply drop out, back into the engine - Bear with me...

On that basis, as the ECU is calling for "timing advance/retard" and the solenoids are opening to allow oil under pressure from the oil pump into the VANOS, BUT the required advance/retard is not being achieved (due to oil getting past the seals) then it stands to reason that the solenoids will keep allowing oil in, in an attempt to achieve the requested valve timing, yes? So my thought is, will this therefore not have an effect on the general oil pressure in the rest of the engine, ie lowering it??

Food for thought, especially in the ///M engine???

Shame I didn't think of this beforehand, as could have taken hot running oil pressures before and after...

Mike
 
Ducklakeview said:
SonnyA85 said:
where you based? and how much to do mine? :thumbsup:

Merseyside - Probably looking at around £300 all in, less than half what "Mr Vanos" charges...

Mike

i already bought a kit but i think it was just the rings. i'm in scotland so it's a bit of a trek down. i'll send you a pic of the kit when i'm back home and we can discuss further if i need other parts as well. would have to be a weekend obviously. i would possibly drive down saturday early morning to get there for noon'ish. earliest i could make it would be 11am if i left at 7am and didn't stop anywhere.

how long does it take? or am i better off coming down on friday evening. staying at a hotel (further costs) then popping round early on saturday?

i've asked 2 garages up here about doing it and both told me not to bother. :headbang:

i'd rather get it done by someone like yourself who knows the car intimately.

you will obviously need to wait for the engine to cool down? mine is a 3.0i so after 4 hours of motorway it's going to be extremely hot.
 
If I was to do it again, I reckon around 2.5-3 hours max from start to finish. Mine took a bit longer as it was the first time, and I also wanted to change the water pump and thermostat housing gasket. The engine doesn't need to be cold tbh, by the time the top covers etc are off and it's jacked up, I would think it wouldn't be too hot to work on by that point.

If you already have the kit, then the cost would be less, as I included it's cost in the figure.

Mike
 
Well done bud.
Just had mine done at the indi along with the ccv .which was perished when it came off .
Didnt fancy doing it miself being bent over the engine .too old now.
Off for a run now see what if any difference it makes to the drive.
Cheers M
 
AlienZed said:
Well done bud.
Just had mine done at the indi along with the ccv .which was perished when it came off .
Didnt fancy doing it miself being bent over the engine .too old now.
Off for a run now see what if any difference it makes to the drive.
Cheers M

Out of interest; what was the cost?

Mike
 
Pm sent.
Just returned from a 60ml run a fee blasts in parts .red line. Deffo smoother pick up in auto sport mode and manual mode revs more freely.
And better ont fuel too so for a 105.000 miler its great.
Cheers M
 
Does make a noticeable difference and even improves mpg ever so slightly. All M54 vanos seals are supposed to be pretty much goosed by 20k so god knows how many are out there under performing. Must be only a very small percentage that actually have the seals replaced.
 
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