hmmmmmm...... if I can't see it or smell it then I'm quite relaxed.
but if you start with smokers, should this be extended to......
but if you start with smokers, should this be extended to......
Fag ends!!
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Hopefully there's non of that "sort" who own a Z4 ! 
Lack of any sort of sense, Lucy !Lucy said:
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Don Gilham said:
Hmm, Whilst I agree that Smoking is bad for your health etc etc etc, as a smoker I find the above comment quite insulting, it is very easy to stand up on a pedastal and deliver such comments, but when you have been brought up in an all smoking household in the days when the government actually encouraged you to smoke and no one (including non smokers) gave a second look to anyone lighting up almost anywhere then maybe some opinions are better not aired. I personally think that the powers that be should be looking to beat up alcoholics, why? because I too can make sweeping statements about the amount of violence and anti social behavouir it causes on our streets not to even mention our A&E depts being filled up with foul mouthed idiots abusing the very people who are trying to help them, But I have sense enough to realise that not all people who enjoy alcohol are complete idiots.
As I posted earlier I consider myself to be a considerate smoker even to the extent of avoiding breathing on people after having one, but if I for one minute thought that all non smokers thought all the smokers "lacked any sort of sense" then my consideration for non-smokers would perhaps change.
People who discard fag ends or any other sort of litter out of there cars are morons, but please do not tar us all with the same brush.
Rant over.......
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Nosa said:
I hope it's low tar...
It’s inexcusable to flick fag ends out of the car. As a biker I’ve copped a few from careless motorists although I suspect a few have been thrown at me deliberately. The worst thing I had thrown at me was a raw egg, lobbed at me from an oncoming white van driver who obviously didn’t approve of my robust filtering.
On a tangent, surely people who smoke in their cars must get penalised when they sell/trade in. I won’t buy a car if I can detect that it’s been smoked in. That smell never seems to go away.
On a tangent, surely people who smoke in their cars must get penalised when they sell/trade in. I won’t buy a car if I can detect that it’s been smoked in. That smell never seems to go away.
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It seems a great shame, Nosa, that you choose to pick on my fairly innocuous comment to rant over. To my mind it was far less offensive as some of the others, and should you care to scroll back I did in fact pass a complimentary comment about you !
I, too, grew up in a household that was full of smokers and in exactly the same time frame that you have mentioned. So I could easily pass comments back, but I won't.
Such a shame that you seem to make this a personal issue though, Nosa. Reading your posts I would have thought better of you.
Rant, as you say, over
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Apoloigies, I was not looking to pick a fight, I just hate sweeping statements, and your right there are other comments I could have picked on but yours just seemed to hit a nerve.
As a smoker I feel we have been picked on for years and to a large extent I agree with alot of the anti-smoking legislation that both ourselves and the rest of the world have now adopted. It just annoys me when Non smokers think it is ok to actually throw personal insults as well.
no hard feelings
As a smoker I feel we have been picked on for years and to a large extent I agree with alot of the anti-smoking legislation that both ourselves and the rest of the world have now adopted. It just annoys me when Non smokers think it is ok to actually throw personal insults as well.
no hard feelings
None whatsoever
(Even though you haven't got a stubby )
(Even though you haven't got a stubby
)As Nosa says , its all about socialization and peer pressure when we are young , we all do stuff that is bad for our and other peoples health , one term for such behavior is cognitive dissonosance, is smoking any differebt from driving fast ? we know its dangerous , however we all ,get some kind of 'hit' from it .
Smokers are an easy target and through lobbying by government and groups such as ash, are reaching their goal in making smoking anti social, we are basically moulded by those in power , ie told how and what to think .
Smokers are an easy target and through lobbying by government and groups such as ash, are reaching their goal in making smoking anti social, we are basically moulded by those in power , ie told how and what to think .
I would like to make one suggestion to those smokers out there - read the book or better still go on one of the seminars - could be the best money you've ever spent! http://www.allencarrseasyway.com/
You may have conditioned yourself to believe you enjoy smoking and this may have been perpetuated by historic social attitudes/media etc, but be open-minded and give it some real thought.
This is from somebody who was bought up in a (heavy) smoking household and I smoked myself between the ages of 14 to 32 (and incidentially whose father who died from a smoking related illness just before last christmas) before giving up the 'easyway'.
p.s. wasn't this about flicking fag ends out of cars?
p.p.s Allen Carr doesn't pay me commission, I just feel compelled to spread the word at any opportunity
You may have conditioned yourself to believe you enjoy smoking and this may have been perpetuated by historic social attitudes/media etc, but be open-minded and give it some real thought.
This is from somebody who was bought up in a (heavy) smoking household and I smoked myself between the ages of 14 to 32 (and incidentially whose father who died from a smoking related illness just before last christmas) before giving up the 'easyway'.
p.s. wasn't this about flicking fag ends out of cars?
p.p.s Allen Carr doesn't pay me commission, I just feel compelled to spread the word at any opportunity