ebay: BMW OBD Diagnostics Cable Fault Code reader Ediabas Inpa DIS Ediabas GT1

Newbers

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Please excuse my ignorance - why would I not buy this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-OBD-D...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 over Carly or a variety of other options?
"This Cable and Software set allows full Coding , Programming and Diagnostics for your BMW. This package contains everything you need to communicate to your BMW, as a dealer would in a workshop but allow you to do it using your own laptop and saving you on expensive dealer diagnostic fees."

I'd like access to decent diagnostics + coding.....
 
If you didn't have £20...

Seriously though it's a good thing to have but less user friendly than Carly. It gives you more power but that comes with more responsibility. You can brick car modules if you mess it up.

I have the same thing but with the fancier cable because we also have an e91 so I needed one that could be switched to the newer car as well.
 
mac27040 said:
guess this might be removed by admin as your promoting illegal software

Oops - hadn't thought about illegal software (certainly wasn't intending to promote). That would be one good reason.
 
I got this one from germany as it came with the phone cable too

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Diagnostic-interface-Android-USB-Micro-for-BMW-Mini-BMWhat-Tablet-Code-/131868557267?hash=item1eb3fa7fd3:g:kjcAAOSw7GRZEjOY

Actually had NCS dummy not expert bundled like the one above but never installed actually just used with carly app
 
Some reasons why you may not want to go down this route (I am not suggesting you shouldn't by the way):

  • The software can be difficult to get running, even for individuals with good IT literacy, INPA is generally designed to run in a windows XP. To get around this most derivations being sold on ebay install a virtual XP machine on your win 7,8,10 machine in which INPA runs
  • The installation instructions are usually at best poor and the process/screens you encounter do not match the instructions and screens in the instructions
  • Some of these softwares are hacked including one seller who has got INPA running in 64bit machines without installing virtual win XP machine. The same seller however has also created his own software registration system which means you have to email him to get a machine specific unlock code before using it. If the software can be hacked to this extent, there has to be at least the potential that it could be hacked to be malicious (and I am not talking about infecting your PC)
  • The software is not easy to use, it was originally created for BMW product development engineers and as such is intended to be used by individuals with a great deal of knowledge of BMW electrical architectures/and error messages. Those who would use it at BMW would get training on how to do so
  • They are usually old copies of software (ignore the version numbers declared, this can be hacked) and may not have latest diagnostics and/or recognise all your modules
  • The user interface is not intuative
  • Many of the faults are described in German and google translate is unlikely to help greatly with technical translations
  • As someone else has pointed out, in knowledgeable hands, damage can be done to your car

Personally I have been down this route, trying this software from various sellers. I have always had difficulty getting INPA to work well (and I am not stupid at IT i used to be a charted IT professional albiet it was acheived for my database design skills).

In the end I opted for ISTA-D which has an easier to use interface than INPA. My first copy I bought from an ebay seller from the eastern block with 100% feedback. Whilst it installed, it would never connect to the car. Despite several weeks of to and fro emails with the seller, I could not get it working. I finally decided to spend a little more money and by the latest copy from Rheingold USA who are supposedly the suppliers (though impossible to validate). This installed , connected and ran first time.

One bit of advice I would give you if you go down any of these routes. Buy yourself some ghosting software and ghost your machine before you start. That way if the installation fails you can wind back very easily.
 
Thanks Magicarcher

You are describing quite a lot of hassle there! Not that I'm not looking for an easy life but there comes a point where the potential for agro outweighs the opportunity...........
 
Magicarcher said:
Some reasons why you may not want to go down this route (I am not suggesting you shouldn't by the way):

  • The software can be difficult to get running, even for individuals with good IT literacy, INPA is generally designed to run in a windows XP. To get around this most derivations being sold on ebay install a virtual XP machine on your win 7,8,10 machine in which INPA runs
  • The installation instructions are usually at best poor and the process/screens you encounter do not match the instructions and screens in the instructions
  • Some of these softwares are hacked including one seller who has got INPA running in 64bit machines without installing virtual win XP machine. The same seller however has also created his own software registration system which means you have to email him to get a machine specific unlock code before using it. If the software can be hacked to this extent, there has to be at least the potential that it could be hacked to be malicious (and I am not talking about infecting your PC)
  • The software is not easy to use, it was originally created for BMW product development engineers and as such is intended to be used by individuals with a great deal of knowledge of BMW electrical architectures/and error messages. Those who would use it at BMW would get training on how to do so
  • They are usually old copies of software (ignore the version numbers declared, this can be hacked) and may not have latest diagnostics and/or recognise all your modules
  • The user interface is not intuative
  • Many of the faults are described in German and google translate is unlikely to help greatly with technical translations
  • As someone else has pointed out, in knowledgeable hands, damage can be done to your car

Personally I have been down this route, trying this software from various sellers. I have always had difficulty getting INPA to work well (and I am not stupid at IT i used to be a charted IT professional albiet it was acheived for my database design skills).

In the end I opted for ISTA-D which has an easier to use interface than INPA. My first copy I bought from an ebay seller from the eastern block with 100% feedback. Whilst it installed, it would never connect to the car. Despite several weeks of to and fro emails with the seller, I could not get it working. I finally decided to spend a little more money and by the latest copy from Rheingold USA who are supposedly the suppliers (though impossible to validate). This installed , connected and ran first time.

One bit of advice I would give you if you go down any of these routes. Buy yourself some ghosting software and ghost your machine before you start. That way if the installation fails you can wind back very easily.

totally agree with all the points raised here, however I had a quite different experience in setup bought a cheap version from ebay seller (BM cables or something like that) recently installed on a new laptop I stuck the installer CD in, pressed go and within 10 mins had a fully working INPA which connected straight away, no hassles and no IT skills required....using the actual software it isn't always intuitive though
 
Newbers said:
Thanks Magicarcher

You are describing quite a lot of hassle there! Not that I'm not looking for an easy life but there comes a point where the potential for agro outweighs the opportunity...........

That is my experience, it can be a lot of hassle and perseverance can be required. But in my case it was a necessity as I had an airbag error I couldn't clear any other way (managed to clear it from the SIM with BMW diagnostics 1.4 software and cable, but it remained as an error code in the Cluster and the BMW diagnostics software could not clear the cluster :( shame it was easy to use software.

I have to say that the latest ISTA-D bought from Rheingold USA was very easy to install and get running in a Windows 10 machine. It is also intuitive to use and if there is an error code it can offer step by step instructions to diagnose the problem (I say in some instances because this sin't available for all codes). It also has links to wiring diagrams (which look like WDS). It may be more money but I would prefer it over INPA any day (just reading English error messages is nice alone)
 
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