E85 to go the same way as the Z3?

[Zed Five]

Just like the normal likely drop on value of the last E89s as a result of the G29, there's a good chance that its the tipping point for the E85 and 6. M cars will go up like the MZ3, but the rest are likely to drop into the sub £2-3k zone. (Just like early Boxsters, now basically dead).

That's life!

 

[Paulr]

Hang on for 10 or 15 years and the price will start to rise! Wait a minute, I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

 

[buzyg]

Just enjoy the

 

[MACK]

Just like the normal likely drop on value of the last E89s as a result of the G29, there's a good chance that its the tipping point for the E85 and 6. M cars will go up like the MZ3, but the rest are likely to drop into the sub £2-3k zone. (Just like early Boxsters, now basically dead).

That's life!

To be honest a lot of e85 have already hit the £2-3k mark, certainly at trade/px prices they have been there for a while already. Most pre facelift cars are sub £5k these days and the post E85r can be sourced fairly easily for sub £7k and this is for cars with less than 100k. In the end they will just be priced all over the place like the older Z3 with spec and condition being the main drivers etc not age per se.
At the end of the day a lot of e85 owners have probably done quite well in the last few years with prices holding up well and if you've bought a car for £4-5k in the first place that's the absolute most your going to loose. Buy any later model E89 from a main dealer and you've lost that just driving home in markups etc and thats before the new model starts gIving it a kicking.

It will be intesting to see where E89 prices end up 10 years from now when the later ones are as old as the last of the E85s are now. Personally I think with what looks like being a highly desirable new model with none of the drawbacks of the E89 then they won't fair as well as the E85 did as for many there weren't any reasonably priced alternatives.

 

[Anonymous]

I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

Exactly, old E85s are so cheap now that it doesn't matter.
If my car has halved in value when I eventually come to sell it I wouldn't feel hard done by.
That's perhaps a little flippant, but the sentiment is correct imo.

 

[ronk]

Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

 

[Franzino]

Hang on for 10 or 15 years and the price will start to rise! Wait a minute, I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

Buy a house or Bitcoins if you want to invest

 

[thanatu55]

I'll be happy to hold onto and enjoy my E85 for a very long time yet. Imho whilst I think the Z3 looks quite dated in today's market (no offence Z3 owners), the E85 hasn't aged to the same extent. I still get people thinking mine is brand new and modern. Of course in time all cars reach that stage at some point and tread the line between the classics or the scrap heap. I think BMW hit a belter with the E85/E86, there's nothing else quite like it, and whilst their value will undoubtedly drop even more I won't love it any less.

 

[Smartbear]

Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

Only for the first 3 years I’d say, or every e85 is now completely worthless!
Rob

 

[Ed Doe]

Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

 

[MACK]

Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

No I wasn't aware they were bouncing back. How much of a bounce have they had?

 

[Marlon]

Regarding some people thinking these cars are brand new - I may have mentioned this before but it still makes me smile.
We meet up a few times a year with a couple of friends. He really knows nowt about cars but nevertheless has clocked mine as something a bit special. Anyway, last time we got together he asked how much I paid for it – he knows I bought it in the summer of 2015.
So I asked him to guess and he says £34,000 :lol: I told him his guess was accurate in one way, as that’s what it cost new back in 2008

 

[z4pilot]

I'll be happy to hold onto and enjoy my E85 for a very long time yet. Imho whilst I think the Z3 looks quite dated in today's market (no offence Z3 owners), the E85 hasn't aged to the same extent. I still get people thinking mine is brand new and modern. Of course in time all cars reach that stage at some point and tread the line between the classics or the scrap heap. I think BMW hit a belter with the E85/E86, there's nothing else quite like it, and whilst their value will undoubtedly drop even more I won't love it any less.

I think the thing about the Z3 is that it was designed to have retro cues, it deliberately looked like it was referencing classic roadsters, so I think it's growing into it's looks quite nicely now. It was a bit of a mongrel under the skin and wasn't the greatest drive, but it'll find it's place as a bit of a classic and the interior certainly looks great.

 

[Anonymous]

Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

I think that’s what dealers say when you’ve got something to trade in

 

[Ed Doe]

Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

No I wasn't aware they were bouncing back. How much of a bounce have they had?

They're back up past the 6k mark for a decent one, and up to 8 for a really good well cared for example! Getting into a decent manual flat 6 porker of any designation it seems is becoming an increasingly expensive proprisiton it would seem!

 

[Anonymous]

As an E89 owner I have to say that the E85 seems, today,for me, more timeless than the E89...

Only time will tell how the E89 is judged when the new one comes out..personally I think the new one will be so different that it will leave a clear space mentally around the E89....

Seems like all the new cars from all manufacturers have been processed using the same CAD software and look to much of a kind...IMHO..

 

[155MPH]

My bet is anyone that has a manual car should hold on to it for a long long time as it will go up in value nicely when you can no longer get a new car with a manual tranny. Which as we see with the G29 is reality. This is why I recently bought an E89, both because I love the manual and also because I think it is a no brainer that it will continue to be a very desirable choice in the future (and also because the design inside and out is beautiful and award winning). And as far as those that deride its track cred - not all owners owners or would be owners t track a car nor ever will but still enjoy the control and fun of a roadster with a third pedal!

P.S. I also missed my 2006 Z4M roady that I regretted selling the day after I sold it 4 years ago.

 

[djstan]

I'll be happy to hold onto and enjoy my E85 for a very long time yet. Imho whilst I think the Z3 looks quite dated in today's market (no offence Z3 owners), the E85 hasn't aged to the same extent. I still get people thinking mine is brand new and modern. Of course in time all cars reach that stage at some point and tread the line between the classics or the scrap heap. I think BMW hit a belter with the E85/E86, there's nothing else quite like it, and whilst their value will undoubtedly drop even more I won't love it any less.

I'm actually thinking about getting a Z3 at the moment as a sort of future classic...

 

[BeeEmm]

My bet is anyone that has a manual car should hold on to it for a long long time as it will go up in value nicely when you can no longer get a new car with a manual tranny.

When that happens, new drivers will only have a licence to drive automatics, so manuals will have fewer prospective buyers, but it will be a long time before that occurs.

 

[ronk]

I still see my old E85 albeit with its French plates - it’s a fourteen year old car and it still looks a attractive little motor and I’d be happy to own it again even tho slower and not nearly as technically advanced!