At it again...
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I don't care what their ethnicity is, they want their bollocks removed with a pair of bolt cutters.
But yes, its clearly a cultural issue but nobody has the balls to admit it.
But yes, its clearly a cultural issue but nobody has the balls to admit it.
I'm not sure what it is that makes these people think it's OK to do this. There's been a lot of talk about cultural differences but I don't buy that at all. I'd hate to see the race card played here, these people are just criminal and need to be dealt with as such. What sickens me is many are fathers themselves 
We can but hope they get put away with a few "bubba" types who will take their time explaining the error of their ways
We can but hope they get put away with a few "bubba" types who will take their time explaining the error of their ways
What worries me so much is that every time one of these stories appear, the poor girl(s) involved turn out to be "vulnerable" - or put another way, they are already in the "care" system... a system which is obviously not working too well...
The press has jumped upon this story, because of the last well-publicised case, making it look like this iss a wholly Asian problem. Sadly, I am sure that 'grooming' goes on throughout the UK, with perpetrators across the ethnic spectrum.
The press has jumped upon this story, because of the last well-publicised case, making it look like this iss a wholly Asian problem. Sadly, I am sure that 'grooming' goes on throughout the UK, with perpetrators across the ethnic spectrum.
Maybe they didn't really believe what they were doing was 'immoral'. Islam seems to have misogynist tendencies and a disdain for non believers. The Derby grooming case judge said the offenders believed the victims inherently worthless.
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I think it is crimes like this that will destroy the ideal of multiculturalism. Pity really, it would have been nice if we could have all got on together like a happy family, each with our own interests.
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I think it is crimes like this that will destroy the ideal of multiculturalism. Pity really, it would have been nice if we could have all got on together like a happy family, each with our own interests.
Telford in May, Rochdale in June, Ipswich in July... Same demographic with perpetrator and victim
Unfortunately statistics don't lie and the powers that be do not want to say this is a cultural issue.
Why would they? When baroness Warsi bravely stood up last month and said it was. Out of the blue someone from her community then piped up and spilled the beans about her 'work' trips abroad with a non government business partner which got her into hot water, also shut her up?
Somewhat odd that the BBC never give much detail i.e naming offenders, where all other media sites do.
#KeepingQuiteForTheirCareers
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Unfortunately statistics don't lie and the powers that be do not want to say this is a cultural issue.
Why would they? When baroness Warsi bravely stood up last month and said it was. Out of the blue someone from her community then piped up and spilled the beans about her 'work' trips abroad with a non government business partner which got her into hot water, also shut her up?
Somewhat odd that the BBC never give much detail i.e naming offenders, where all other media sites do.
#KeepingQuiteForTheirCareers
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hate to burst the bubble here but over 90% of sex offendors in the uk are caucasian males
so lets not make scape goats of minorities, lets just all mix them in the same pot and say that this is criminal and should be treated equally in uk law as any other sexual offence case
i have a lot of asian friends and none of them run around doing this type of thing, so lets put this in context here and not jump to racial or ethnic specific allegations as you are all stepping on very thin ice
any racist comments on a public forum can be used as evidence in criminal cases of inciting racial hatred
so lets not make scape goats of minorities, lets just all mix them in the same pot and say that this is criminal and should be treated equally in uk law as any other sexual offence case
i have a lot of asian friends and none of them run around doing this type of thing, so lets put this in context here and not jump to racial or ethnic specific allegations as you are all stepping on very thin ice
any racist comments on a public forum can be used as evidence in criminal cases of inciting racial hatred
envy said:
Whose scape goating? or walking on thin ice? Saying racist comments? your talking crap - this is a dicussion about recent events so pull your head out of your ass...
envy said:
90% of people in the UK are caucasian so of course the above would tie in with above... you work out the other percentages...
?envy said:
the comments made so far seem to about culture/religion.
I seem to remember there were some Lords amendments to the public order act a few years ago that meant you could be prosecuted for inciting religious hatred but I thought you need to suggest that 'something should be done' to members of that religion. Blanket statements like Islam or Catholicism suck don't count. Then again, it might have have been an amendment that said you can't be prosecuted.
We must have some lawyers on the board. Does anyone know what isn't permitted?
To be clear, I'm speaking generally here, not about sexual offenders / offences.
I'm an Englishman living in Australia, and when you put me alongside a true blue Aussie the cultural differences are as clear as day.
Different cultural customs / codes / standards are real whether we like them or not. To deny they exist, or to wilfully choose to ignore them is not a good place to be IMO.
And words cannot describe what I think of sexual offenders, well not on here...
I'm an Englishman living in Australia, and when you put me alongside a true blue Aussie the cultural differences are as clear as day.
Different cultural customs / codes / standards are real whether we like them or not. To deny they exist, or to wilfully choose to ignore them is not a good place to be IMO.
And words cannot describe what I think of sexual offenders, well not on here...
ranski said:
after the first instance of this was reported there was an article in the Independent that gave some daming statistics. it is a cultural issue. the majority of these group grooming instances are carried out
by groups of Asian men.
Might try and find it later.
ranski said:
how about you pull your head out of yours! from what i can see here everyone seems to think that sexual offences against minors are committed by minorities but the FACT remains that it is caucasians that remain the majority. and yes by blaming minorities, you are scapegoating fool!
envy said:
90% of people in the UK are caucasian so of course the above would tie in with above... you work out the other percentages...[/quote]
errrrrr like i say if 90% are caucasian offendors then arent they in the majority or do you not understand stats!
Greeno said:
lol the term grooming was escalated into prominence when caucasian males started to groom minors via the internet chatrooms lest we not forget or are we just going to brush this under the carpet like we always do and focus on "asians"
maybe we should just close our eyes and call all asians sex offendors and terrorists and get them thrown out of the country..... oh wait, if we did that then we wouldnt really have an nhs system anymore
Envy.
No one has said sexual offences are committed exclusively by any particular minority.
There are concerns about particular crimes being prevalent amongst particular ethnicities. For example white collar crime is done by white men. Street grooming seems to be an asian/moslem thing. Voodoo exorcism, bride burning, forced marriage, bushmeat importation, slavery, all have particular cultural norms, the list is long. When a culture is found to offend disproportionately it is reasonable to consider what might be the causal factors and what attitudes may need to be challenged by those in the mainstream. It would be cowardly if commentators avoided these issues because there is a fear of giving offence.
No one has said sexual offences are committed exclusively by any particular minority.
There are concerns about particular crimes being prevalent amongst particular ethnicities. For example white collar crime is done by white men. Street grooming seems to be an asian/moslem thing. Voodoo exorcism, bride burning, forced marriage, bushmeat importation, slavery, all have particular cultural norms, the list is long. When a culture is found to offend disproportionately it is reasonable to consider what might be the causal factors and what attitudes may need to be challenged by those in the mainstream. It would be cowardly if commentators avoided these issues because there is a fear of giving offence.
