Arrrrgh please help! CSL rims Tyre sizes!

zippster

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Hey all

just about to order some Geniune CSL rims with new tyres, but i cannot find for the life of me what sizes i should be ordering, i have spend over an hour this morning using search (where im sure i read a post on here recently)

can someone please tell me the correct size i should be ordering for these wheels

im pretty sure the fronts are 235/40/19?

can i use 275/30/19 on the rear?

FYI im ordering the new goodyear asymmetric tyres.

Thanks in advance


Andy..
 
Lots of different variations, I'm on Mich PS2's front 225/45/19 Rears 245/45/19. Thats' what mine came with, When the time comes though I will be going 'large'.

235/35/19 on the front and 275/30/19, I'll probably swap to Conti Sports instead of the rip off PS2's.

It's your choice though, I'm told 275's on the rear will fit without any rubbing probs though.
 
righty im going with 235/35/19 on the front and 275/30/19 on the rear.


still need to get rid of my old wheels and tyres though.
 
That's what I use, 235/35/19 front and 265/30/19 rear. For Cups I'm using 265/30/19 rears. I use a 10mm spacer on the front too without any issues and I could probably get away with a 10mm rear.
 
IMHO the following sizes give the best overall compromise.

245/35/29 and 255/35/19.

Almost identical to circumference of OE Z4M tyres and more grip at the front.

However if you are ordering Goodyears I think you will struggle in the sizes I recommend. The Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta might be one to consider if you were to follow my size recommendation. All in fitted, balanced, VAT about £650.
 
I've just (this morning) gone for 245/35 at the front and 275/30 at the rear. Same tyre too - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric. It was a toss-up between the known-to-be-good Michellin PS2's and the Goodyears, which have consistently beaten everything (inc the PS2's) in recent tests. In the end, the lower asking price of the Goodyear's did it for me. Had they been the same price, I probably would have played it safe with the known-to-work-on-the-Z4 PS2's, but they're not, and the potential payback could be noticably better grip than the PS2's.

As for your sizes: don't do it. The sums I did, based on the stock rim widths and fitted tyres showed that the ideal widths on the CSL rims would be 240 at the front and 270 at the back. Trouble is that those sizes don't exist and happen to fall exactly between the choices that you do have: 235 or 245 at the front and 265 or 275 at the back. By going with 235 at the front and 275 at the back, you're effectively choosing to go wider at the back and narrower at the front, proportionately. Given that the Z4M has a reputation for understeer, moving the balance even further towards more rear grip than front grip is going to make things worse. Either go with 245/275 or 235/265. Or if you're feeling really brave (the risk being you really upset the handling), you could go with 245 at the front (wide option) and 265 at the back (narrow option), thus attempting to give the front more grip. I decided i'd like the same fundamental ballance because I couldn't guarantee that the 245/265 combo would have the desired effect, so that left 235/265 and 245/275 options. It turned out that the 245/275 option was only 35 more than the 235/265 setup, and will almost certainly give more grip, simply because all tyres are slightly wider. It also means the tyre sits fatter on the wheel and so offers marginally more protection.

Like you say, though - it's very difficult to find out this info - if you look on bimmerfest, you'll find a whole load of posts by me trying to discover the same answer. I ended up using a combo of advice from the retailer (who knew what tyres are fitted to the M3 CSL), my own calculations based on the ratio of the widths of the stock tyres to the widths of the stock wheels, and the website that lets you experiment with different tyre sizes and compare the eventual rolling radius change over stock.

So my advice is this: go with either 235/35 front and 265/30 rear, or 245/35 front and 275/30 rear. Because the profile number is a ratio of the tyre width, the 245/275 option means slightly larger rolling radius' which are closer to stock than the 235/265 option.
 
I hope your choice of sizes goes well for you but the standard CSL sizes are tried and tested by many Z4M owners and shouldn't be dismissed. I'm on the same sizes as Blacklines, 245/35/19 and 255/35/19, albeit on PS2's and I'm very impressed with the way the car drives on them.
 
thanks for the info guys but i thought 245/35 would rub on the front, and i also calculated that 270/30 although upto 5mm bigger on the RR would help with the speedo being slightly off ???


im far from being an expert and appreciate the advise..
 
I'm on 245/35 and 275/30 and there's certainly no rubbing, I don't think you could go much bigger on the front though. Only downsides are a fair bit more tyre noise, and having to give standing water a wide berth in the wet.
 
so with the exception of potentially adding some understeer, can anyone see why i shouldnt with the sizes ive ordered?

if necessary i can talk to the garage tomorrow and change the order but im guessing thats likely to take longer to deliver ?

the guy went into depth with me the calculations and to be honest i was lost, he has an M3 and runs this size combo so i was happy to go with that but now you guys are making me worry?

no bearing in mind i wont be tracking this car, do around 8000 (spirited) miles a year and am buying the CSL for asthetics rather than anything else am i really going to be in trouble?


thanks again oh wise z4-forum!


Andy..
 
245/35 at the front work well - you will be happy and great choice of tyre.

If it helps re-build your confidence - have a play round on this site. It is a great calculator.

http://www.tyresite.com/tyrecalc.asp

And for ease of reference here are the OE 18 tyre sizes straight from the BMW site.

OE = 225/45 ZR 18/255/40 ZR 18.
 
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