27 families destroyed and for what?

[theblues]

Jonnyfive

some wal-mart's sell ammo depending which state you are in, plus this prepper's movement going on in the USA, more people had been buying guns like the Bushmaster .223 rifle that the killer used.
logging all ammo sold would be a way forward and agree all semi automatic's should be banned, why would a mother have such a weapon in the house. But while the NRA pour millions into campaign funds its going to be very hard for any president to get a gun ban.

my thoughts are with the families that will never get over this.

 

[Bad_Pritt]

I just heard on the news today that since this happened, Americans are buying even more guns to defend themselves against other guns... :?

I also heard that in our country (Bigdog, I'm from Belgium ) the number of people being killed (by any means) decreased substantially since the law on guns changed in 2006. It's a fact, not an assumption.

I hear a lot of arguments such as: "you can kill with a car too". But here you need a license and pass an exam. "you can kill with knifes too". OK, but not from a mile away. That is why I have a problem with guns: it's too easy to hurt or kill anyone with it. That's unfortunately why it was created. I would never own a gun, especially when having kids that can hurt themselves with it. Or worse case scenario: kill others...

I haven't read the therad entirely but, how do you feel about the fact that his mother actually thought him how to use guns? To me, you're just asking for trouble that way? A child is not always mature enough to understand the responsibilities when holding a gun.

Again: I'm not here to offend people that have other opinions, it's like Bigdog says: it should be debatable

 

[bigdog]

I just heard on the news today that since this happened, Americans are buying even more guns to defend themselves against other guns... :?

I also heard that in our country (Bigdog, I'm from Belgium ) the number of people being killed (by any means) decreased substantially since the law on guns changed in 2006. It's a fact, not an assumption.

I hear a lot of arguments such as: "you can kill with a car too". But here you need a license and pass an exam. "you can kill with knifes too". OK, but not from a mile away. That is why I have a problem with guns: it's too easy to hurt or kill anyone with it. That's unfortunately why it was created. I would never own a gun, especially when having kids that can hurt themselves with it. Or worse case scenario: kill others...

I haven't read the therad entirely but, how do you feel about the fact that his mother actually thought him how to use guns? To me, you're just asking for trouble that way? A child is not always mature enough to understand the responsibilities when holding a gun.


Again: I'm not here to offend people that have other opinions, it's like Bigdog says: it should be debatable

And for all the guns we have in America. Our gun violence rate has in fact decreased some 45% from it's peak. Of course we have a long way to go. A very, very large majority of gun homicides are gang related or related to other habitual criminal activities. This is not tracked in the stats.

I feel that in THIS particular case. The mother was very irresponsible. She knew her son suffered from a form of autism. Granted. His form of autism rarely leads to violence. But. It never the less is a form of mental illness. And as such. He should have had no access to any weapon.

I am one of the people that one doesn't hear about very often. As those that were in my position are routinely ignored by the media. Which said media has a very anti gun bias. I came to my mothers rescue when her date assaulted her in an argument. I was only 14 years old. As we lived in the country some 20 minutes from town. Calling the police would have resulted in at least a 30 minute time period for the boyfriend to beat my mother. So I did what I thought necessary to protect her. I got out my 30-30 bolt action hunting rifle pointed it at him and requested that he leave post haste. He complied and was never heard from again. Job done. I was trained in the use of that weapon. And it scared the hell out of me. But once again. Calling the police then sitting down for a cuppa while I waited for said police while my mother was being assaulted was not something I was willing to do.

 

[Bad_Pritt]

I actually understand this particular situation, and I am happy to read that it actually scared you. Sounds like a logical reaction.
As for the mother in this case: any mother shouldn't teach her kid to play with guns... The automatic rifle she had, is also available in Belgium. Difference is that you need a license and you don't need a license in America... That's the part that I find difficult to understand: it's so easy to buy a gun and still when people get slaughtered, still Americans don't want to touch the gun legislation. Sounds a bit hard-headed to me.