18 / 19 inch CSL wheels on sport / SE coupe

[mattimus]

I love the look of the CSL wheels on the E86!

I think I like the look of the 19 inch more, but do wonder if they look a little too big.

Question - would the additional 15mm height of an SE suspension help a little in this regard (I hope I've got this right), i.e. a slightly larger gap between wheel/tyre and bodywork?

Any pics for comparison?

Thanks,
Matt

 

[inkey$]

Horses for courses. Some will say 18s are the sweet spot and others like a 19. For me its ride quality/handling based, so whatever you go for, make sure to match with decent suspension.

 

[Special Kay]

Matt, the way I see it 19 inch csl's look fantastic on the coupe whatever variant. If, once your happy with the wheels on the car, you may find that it looks slightly 4x4ish, you then have the lovely dilemma of replacing springs or going for coilovers. 15mm height should have little difference to the way the suspension operates, but I may be corrected by other more knowledgeable members on here. I would expect the ride height of the car to increase slightly due to radius of the wheel lifting the car, but the wheel circumference should remain the same pending tyre choices

 

[grannyknot]

First pic are 18"s, second pic are 19"s

 

[IRD]

Look in the Wheels and Tyres section on the Forum. Go back to a post by Penelope from Sat Dec18th 2021 headed Atomic wheels. There are some excellent photographs of a coupe with 19 inch replica CSLs. I liked them so much I now have them on my 2003 SE Roadster.

 

[Ed Doe]

:lol: I love that all the pictures posted are not of CSLs.

To answer your question original CSLs will have quite aggressive offsets for the non-M car. I believe the fronts just about fit, but the rears will stick out of the arches, thus in order to get them to fit correctly you need to mill the wheel centrehub down.

In regard to style, as has been said it's horses for courses. I've personally always thought CSLs as a style look perfect in 19", and by extension I just don't think they look right in 18".That's just my personal opinion however. I think there are other styles of alloy which look great in 18" (for instance Apex Arc-8 or EC-7s).

 

[grannyknot]

:lol: I love that all the pictures posted are not of CSLs.

My second pic are 19" genuine Style 359 Competition wheels from the E92 M3 otherwise known as CSLs

 

[Ed Doe]

:lol: I love that all the pictures posted are not of CSLs.

My second pic are 19" genuine Style 359 Competition wheels from the E92 M3 otherwise known as CSLs

Nope the Style 359 alloys aren't known as CSLs, because they aren't the alloy originally supplied on the E46 M3 CSL (which was the Style 163).

http://www.bmwstylewheels.com/bmw/163

 

[grannyknot]

:lol: I love that all the pictures posted are not of CSLs.

My second pic are 19" genuine Style 359 Competition wheels from the E92 M3 otherwise known as CSLs

Nope the Style 359 alloys aren't known as CSLs, because they aren't the alloy originally supplied on the E46 M3 CSL (which was the Style 163).

http://www.bmwstylewheels.com/bmw/163

Nope, you are wrong. E92 M3 Competition style 359 are also know as CSLs.

 

[Ed Doe]

Nope, you are wrong. E92 M3 Competition style 359 are also know as CSLs.

:lol: Style 359 didn't come on a CSL, and are therefore *not* CSLs. They might have accidentally been referred to as CSLs by people such as your good self who don't know better, but personal belief doesn't alter facts.

 

[TomK]

Nope, you are wrong. E92 M3 Competition style 359 are also know as CSLs.

Maybe it's a US thing. No one in europe would ever refer to 1M/e92 comp pack wheels as CSLs much as they do look similar.
The CSL wheel is the one that came on the CSL, makes sense to us over here

my coupe a long time ago with (real) CSLs

And with 18" ARC-8 (which also look a bit like CSLs but don't seem to look as naff as rep 18" CSL)

 

[Ed Doe]

I do love arc8s, imo they're the perfect wheel for the Z4, especially with some nice concavity on the fronts!

 

[Mr Tidy]

CSL Reps come as 18s and 19s. 19s will fit in the arches of an E86 as my current MC lowered on coil-overs had 19 CSL Reps fitted when I bought it that didn't rub - well not once I binned the spacers and raised the ride height. :headbang:



They were exactly the same size and offsets as genuine CSLs but as Ed says the offsets, especially on the rear, might be too aggressive for a non-M - but you can probably get Reps with different widths and offsets.

I took them off and sold them because nearly everyone has got them. :lol:

 

[grannyknot]

Nope, you are wrong. E92 M3 Competition style 359 are also know as CSLs.

:lol: Style 359 didn't come on a CSL, and are therefore *not* CSLs. They might have accidentally been referred to as CSLs by people such as your good self who don't know better, but personal belief doesn't alter facts.

Why smug little c**t, how do live with yourself?
They are referred to as CSL's because they are virtually identical to the ones on the E46 M3, and the E92 GTS M3 was the natural successor to the CSL E46.
If BMW makes an almost exact copy of their own wheel but gives it different style number just to keep the CSL prigs happy, then that's their business.
So good for you Ed, a technical win, but you've just demonstrated very clearly why BMW owners are universally hated, people like your good self who are stuck up smug little picks who relish an opportunity to show off their knowledge of minutiae in order to puff themselves up.

Apologizes to the OP for cluttering up your thread.

 

[grannyknot]

Maybe it's a US thing. No one in europe would ever refer to 1M/e92 comp pack wheels as CSLs much as they do look similar.
The CSL wheel is the one that came on the CSL, makes sense to us over here

You're probably right, I know technically they have a different style number but I can't say I have ever heard anyone in NA refer to them as anything other than CSL's, to the point where I actually forgot myself.

 

[Joycey]

Nope, you are wrong. E92 M3 Competition style 359 are also know as CSLs.

:lol: Style 359 didn't come on a CSL, and are therefore *not* CSLs. They might have accidentally been referred to as CSLs by people such as your good self who don't know better, but personal belief doesn't alter facts.

Why smug little c**t, how do live with yourself?
They are referred to as CSL's because they are virtually identical to the ones on the E46 M3, and the E92 GTS M3 was the natural successor to the CSL E46.
If BMW makes an almost exact copy of their own wheel but gives it different style number just to keep the CSL prigs happy, then that's their business.
So good for you Ed, a technical win, but you've just demonstrated very clearly why BMW owners are universally hated, people like your good self who are stuck up smug little picks who relish an opportunity to show off their knowledge of minutiae in order to puff themselves up.

Apologizes to the OP for cluttering up your thread.

I cant see why Ed is a smug little **** he politely tried to correct you.

You might be struggling to get over your own ego :roll:

Well I've learnt somthing new today, cheers chaps.

Also agree to Arc-8 does give the perfect stance for the coupe.

 

[Ed Doe]

Why smug little c**t, how do live with yourself?
They are referred to as CSL's because they are virtually identical to the ones on the E46 M3, and the E92 GTS M3 was the natural successor to the CSL E46.
If BMW makes an almost exact copy of their own wheel but gives it different style number just to keep the CSL prigs happy, then that's their business.
So good for you Ed, a technical win, but you've just demonstrated very clearly why BMW owners are universally hated, people like your good self who are stuck up smug little picks who relish an opportunity to show off their knowledge of minutiae in order to puff themselves up.

Apologizes to the OP for cluttering up your thread.

Oh poppet, why don't you re-read your responses to me and perhaps take a look in the mirror?

To be clear, this is a thread specifically about a singular alloy design (the alloys sold on the M3 CSL specifically). Style 359s were designed for the E9X platform, and therefore have different widths and offsets to the Style 163, so it's actually quite important to be clear what we're talking about - particularly when considering that non-M models cannot accommodate aggressive offset wheels.

I've very little interest in points scoring, or in fact what you think of me - I'm actually more interested in ensuring that the OP gets the correct information in order to make an assessment of what will fit on his car, rather than making a costly error.

Goodness me!

 

[Dark Diggler]

Hey OP, this may help although it's VW transporter based!
Top image is std 17" wheels and std suspension
Middle image is 20" wheels and std suspension
Bottom is 20" wheels and 40mm lowered.
Gives you an idea of your question hopefully, my opinion would be that adding 19s to your se ride height may make it look like its riding high, but thats only to my taste, you could always put some lowering springs on if you didn't like it