Expected Tyre Wear?

[Ruofdez]

I’m guessing the way the cars are set up you’d expect a bit more inner wear but this is quite extreme surely?

That’s a front tyre but the rears are also wearing quicker on the inside, presumably due to the camber. Not sure whether I should bite the bullet and get 4 new tyres and alignment

 

[Ruofdez]

Oh and the car does tramline a fair bit. Assume that’s down to the geometry and tyres though they are at least matching tread/brand.

 

[mr wilks]

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Not sure whether I should bite the bullet and get 4 new tyres and alignment

I don't think you need that answering for you if it is even a question

 

[Ruofdez]

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Not sure whether I should bite the bullet and get 4 new tyres and alignment

I don't think you need that answering for you if it is even a question

Going to have to be done I think! I guess my only actual question was would you expect the inner to wear faster even once geometry is done?

 

[ben g]

Is your car lowered at all? Only reason I ask is because lowering these cars causes quite excessive negative camber. My front tyres aren't massively dissimilar to yours, although not as extreme and I had a wheel alignment done just last year.

 

[kis]

Got some info on alignment in my thread, take a read if you need to https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=107556

 

[Ruofdez]

Is your car lowered at all? Only reason I ask is because lowering these cars causes quite excessive negative camber. My front tyres aren't massively dissimilar to yours, although not as extreme and I had a wheel alignment done just last year.

I think it probably has been lowered. Eibachs at the rear. No markings on the front but struggles to clear even small speed bumps so I'd be surprised if the ride height is standard.

Got some info on alignment in my thread, take a read if you need to https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=107556

Brilliant thank you, will get reading now

 

[skelters]

From what it's saying on the Google....

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/info/understanding-tire-wear/

Inner-Edge Tread Wear
Inner-edge tire tread wear is the most common tread wear problem most technicians see. The angles causing this type of wear are typically negative toe and camber. For parts, there are three component sources of the inner-edge tread wear: bushings, springs and loads.

Other sites are saying the same thing.


So best advice would be to get the bushes checked. Get the springs checked that they're the same left and right. Get the shockers checked that they're all ok. Basically the entire suspension should be checked.

After that get tyres ordered and fitted. Michelin or Pirelli / Goodyear if possible.

Then a Hunter alignment done.

After all that is fixed and with new rubber it'll be like a different car!

 

[Ruofdez]

From what it's saying on the Google....

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/info/understanding-tire-wear/

Inner-Edge Tread Wear
Inner-edge tire tread wear is the most common tread wear problem most technicians see. The angles causing this type of wear are typically negative toe and camber. For parts, there are three component sources of the inner-edge tread wear: bushings, springs and loads.

Other sites are saying the same thing.


So best advice would be to get the bushes checked. Get the springs checked that they're the same left and right. Get the shockers checked that they're all ok. Basically the entire suspension should be checked.

After that get tyres ordered and fitted. Michelin or Pirelli / Goodyear if possible.

Then a Hunter alignment done.

After all that is fixed and with new rubber it'll be like a different car!

Thank you for this, will take your advice and get this done ASAP.

 

[skelters]

From what it's saying on the Google....

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/info/understanding-tire-wear/

Inner-Edge Tread Wear
Inner-edge tire tread wear is the most common tread wear problem most technicians see. The angles causing this type of wear are typically negative toe and camber. For parts, there are three component sources of the inner-edge tread wear: bushings, springs and loads.

Other sites are saying the same thing.


So best advice would be to get the bushes checked. Get the springs checked that they're the same left and right. Get the shockers checked that they're all ok. Basically the entire suspension should be checked.

After that get tyres ordered and fitted. Michelin or Pirelli / Goodyear if possible.

Then a Hunter alignment done.

After all that is fixed and with new rubber it'll be like a different car!

Thank you for this, will take your advice and get this done ASAP.

Before doing all that check prices on https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/ to give you an idea of the costs.

Bushes havea look at Powerflex bushes.

 

[Ruofdez]

Booked in for Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s all round and full alignment. Will get the other bits looked at once I return from euro trip. At least I’ll have confidence I can push it on the autobahn now :evil:

 

[road warrior]

Booked in for Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s all round and full alignment. Will get the other bits looked at once I return from euro trip. At least I’ll have confidence I can push it on the autobahn now :evil:

I would get your geometry fixed before lashing out on new rubber, not only will you wear it out in the same way, you will then have to endure a few hundred miles of crap steering while the rest of the rubber wears down to its new shape.
Oh and to answer your question.. Yes.. Expect wear..

 

[Ruofdez]

Booked in for Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s all round and full alignment. Will get the other bits looked at once I return from euro trip. At least I’ll have confidence I can push it on the autobahn now :evil:

I would get your geometry fixed before lashing out on new rubber, not only will you wear it out in the same way, you will then have to endure a few hundred miles of crap steering while the rest of the rubber wears down to its new shape.
Oh and to answer your question.. Yes.. Expect wear..

Yep it’s booked in for full alignment/geometry just a couple of days after the tyres are being fitted to avoid that

Time for some burnouts to finish off the old ones and get my moneys worth now :wink:

 

[road warrior]

I'm sure all will be well, but I do it the other way round just incase something expensive is found to be the problem. You would be better served to fix first just incase, sadly your tyres are probably illegal now, bugger..

 

[mmm-five]

Make sure you get the full (possibly an hour) geometry set-up...not the quick 5 minute wheel/tyre alignment you get from most tyre fitters.

 

[road warrior]

Make sure you get the full (possibly an hour) geometry set-up...not the quick 5 minute wheel/tyre alignment you get from most tyre fitters.

Wot he said.. Find a hunter..

 

[Ruofdez]

I'm sure all will be well, but I do it the other way round just incase something expensive is found to be the problem. You would be better served to fix first just incase, sadly your tyres are probably illegal now, bugger..

Yeah true. My thinking is that I’m about to drive 2000 miles so they need to be changed regardless. If something is found with the suspension I’ll try to get it sorted beforehand though.

I think as long as the middle 3/4 have the correct tread then it’s legal so no problems there however from a safety/drivability point of view obviously they’re not up to it.

 

[Ruofdez]

Make sure you get the full (possibly an hour) geometry set-up...not the quick 5 minute wheel/tyre alignment you get from most tyre fitters.

Yep I’ve got it booked in at wheelalignmentcentre Southampton and from what I read they’re highly recommended on other forums like PistonHeads and have all the kit to adjust camber, toe etc thank you

 

[skelters]

If it is a Hunter Alignment you should get a printout of the before and after. Lots of red before and all green after.

Also gives you a chance to see under the car. Get them to check the bushes and the rest of the suspension.

It'll feel like a different car when the alignment has been done.

 

[Ruofdez]

If it is a Hunter Alignment you should get a printout of the before and after. Lots of red before and all green after.

Also gives you a chance to see under the car. Get them to check the bushes and the rest of the suspension.

It'll feel like a different car when the alignment has been done.

Cheers, I’ll post up the before and after in case it interests anyone. Looking forward to seeing how the car feels once it’s been done.