Boxter - What?

Bunker

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Enjoying a hoon and caught up with a 55 boxter S, now I was going to have one of those but decided the Z would be appropriate. How correct I was.... In the right gear, and with a bit of luck the Z will hold it's own against the porker. I thoroughly enjoyed the challenge :)
 
Iv had a good run with a boxter S. Without knowing the figures I expected he would get the legs on me as I assumed it would most likely be ///M territory. He went nowhere, when I got home and checked, 5.5 is why! I know that's quicker but the gap was maintained (ride a moped at 16 and you get an uncanny judgement of whether you are gaining or dropping back) :driving: :thumbsup:
 
Hmmm.... i find it hard to believe you could live with a Boxster S when fully extended in anything but an ///M, which at the time was its main rival. I wouldn't even have considered it in my 3.0si! Its more powerful, and has superior dynamics. Sure, on the public road with all the elements to deal with the difference will be less. But on a track, no chance.


Z4M v Boxster S

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Standard Boxster 2.7 v Z4 3.0

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Don't get me wrong, I don't "race" before anyone comments. But on blasts with my mate in his 2007 boxter s, my old 3.0si was fine, he'd put his foot down on a straight, I did and it was as even as your eye could care.

I've since been out in the M with him, and the difference between the two was definitely greater!

This is road driving, not driving like idiots mind, and I appreciate the boxter s would give the M a bit of a pants down moment on a corner of a track.
 
-Tom- said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't "race" before anyone comments. But on blasts with my mate in his 2007 boxter s, my old 3.0si was fine, he'd put his foot down on a straight, I did and it was as even as your eye could care.

I've since been out in the M with him, and the difference between the two was definitely greater!

This is road driving, not driving like idiots mind, and I appreciate the boxter s would give the M a bit of a pants down moment on a corner of a track.

Yep, on the straights a 3.0si vs a Boxster S the difference will be minimal. And the figures prove that with similar 0/60 times.
 
Guiseley (long standing member here) currently has a boxster S and came on the skyefall run with us.

I've been out with him a fair bit in the zed vs porker realm.
the Porsche will outdo a 3.0i or 3.0si when driven right.
I drive my car damn hard, and I had to drive it very much on the limit to even stay with Guiseley, when he was definitely not at his limit.
He's a better driver than me, and he can squeeze more out of that boxster than I ever could out of the zed.

hands down, anything but an //M will NOT be a fair fight.

Keep up? yeah... unless the porker's got a good driver who isn't afraid to push his/her car into it's "peak" spot.
 
Zed_Steve said:
-Tom- said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't "race" before anyone comments. But on blasts with my mate in his 2007 boxter s, my old 3.0si was fine, he'd put his foot down on a straight, I did and it was as even as your eye could care.

I've since been out in the M with him, and the difference between the two was definitely greater!

This is road driving, not driving like idiots mind, and I appreciate the boxter s would give the M a bit of a pants down moment on a corner of a track.

Yep, on the straights a 3.0si vs a Boxster S the difference will be minimal. And the figures prove that with similar 0/60 times.

0-60? maybe..
20-80? porker will have you every single time.
 
sk93 said:
Guiseley (long standing member here) currently has a boxster S and came on the skyefall run with us.

I've been out with him a fair bit in the zed vs porker realm.
the Porsche will outdo a 3.0i or 3.0si when driven right.
I drive my car damn hard, and I had to drive it very much on the limit to even stay with Guiseley, when he was definitely not at his limit.
He's a better driver than me, and he can squeeze more out of that boxster than I ever could out of the zed.

hands down, anything but an //M will NOT be a fair fight.

Keep up? yeah... unless the porker's got a good driver who isn't afraid to push his/her car into it's "peak" spot.

Last point is key. You have to factor in driver ability, and how hard they are pushing. If you don't know the answer to either, its all based on assumptions, not facts.
 
You want to try following a white Pick up and a silver Fiesta on the Isle of Skye. . . . don't laugh, both excellent drivers :o

Driver ability and knowledge of the road counts for a great deal!

There aren't many roads where it's possible to see the differences between models driven at their very best, safely or without inviting points. But it is interesting assessing the way in which cars handle as well as accelerate when you follow them on a spirited drive. Like you I was pleased with the Zed's performance when I followed a Porsche Boxster over Hartside. Like me has anyone else noticed it's easier to follow rather than lead?

But on the road, point two above is borne out by the terrific pace kept up by both these mundane vehicles on Skye. (Bet they didn't have as much fun as we did though, following them!) Got to give it to them though and recognise the driver ability - brilliant! :D

:driving: :thumbsup:
 
paulgs1000 said:
You want to try following a white Pick up and a silver Fiesta on the Isle of Skye. . . . don't laugh, both excellent drivers :o

Hah. Had a similar experience following a mail van in the Forest of Dean. All about carrying speed through blind corners... something that I wasn't prepared to do and he was! :?
 
sk93 said:
Guiseley (long standing member here) currently has a boxster S and came on the skyefall run with us.

I've been out with him a fair bit in the zed vs porker realm.
the Porsche will outdo a 3.0i or 3.0si when driven right.
I drive my car damn hard, and I had to drive it very much on the limit to even stay with Guiseley, when he was definitely not at his limit.
He's a better driver than me, and he can squeeze more out of that boxster than I ever could out of the zed.

hands down, anything but an //M will NOT be a fair fight.

Keep up? yeah... unless the porker's got a good driver who isn't afraid to push his/her car into it's "peak" spot.

...you may have a removable hardtop on your car but the roof on Guiseley's car is a permanant feature as it's a Cayman not a Boxter... :poke:
 
MrPT said:
paulgs1000 said:
You want to try following a white Pick up and a silver Fiesta on the Isle of Skye. . . . don't laugh, both excellent drivers :o

Hah. Had a similar experience following a mail van in the Forest of Dean. All about carrying speed through blind corners... something that I wasn't prepared to do and he was! :?

very right, new westy owners on a run are always lagging as they just dont quite know the car yet and just how much grip it has. i genuinely think the z has it over my westy when you get up to higher speeds but in/out and low sub 70 not a chance. 0-60 doesnt really count as you never really do 0 unless its the red light derby look at the mid 30-80 range.

carying speed is always good no matter what, it annoys me when people see a corner and kill the speed with braking when they could simply let the speed scrub off in a corner.
 
Bunker said:
Enjoying a hoon and caught up with a 55 boxter S, now I was going to have one of those but decided the Z would be appropriate. How correct I was.... In the right gear, and with a bit of luck the Z will hold it's own against the porker. I thoroughly enjoyed the challenge :)

Oh another Porsche v Z4 debate :)

In the real world there shouldn't be much difference - a 55 plate Boxster S will be a 3.2 with 270 bhp - so not too much more than a facelift 3.0si.

Part of the reason I have it easy is mine's a second gen 3.4 Cayman S, so it's more like 330 bhp - and I get pdk assisting with the gearchanges and PASM keeping the suspension flat etc.

SK93 on the other hand seemed to have a set of mismatched winter tyres sporting legends such as 'Sunny' and 'Quingdao' - so that's part of the differential right there buddy ;)


p.s. I have swapped cars with a certain M driver around the Evo triangle once - both agreed the Cayman was a much easier drive - less engaging maybe, but made swift progress a lot easier. (It did also have the advantage of being 5 years younger too!)
 
OldManPorscheDriver said:
SK93 on the other hand seemed to have a set of mismatched winter tyres sporting legends such as 'Sunny' and 'Quingdao' - so that's part of the differential right there buddy

You're not wrong, but then that wasn't my fault! :cry:
 
MrPT said:
paulgs1000 said:
You want to try following a white Pick up and a silver Fiesta on the Isle of Skye. . . . don't laugh, both excellent drivers :o

Hah. Had a similar experience following a mail van in the Forest of Dean. All about carrying speed through blind corners... something that I wasn't prepared to do and he was! :?

All of them probably have very good knowledge of the roads they are on and know exactly when to push the limit, and are in vehicles they do not own or care a hoot about. And seemingly very accomplished behind the wheel. Much less to lose over someone who's car is their pride and joy, with only a vague knowledge of the route.
 
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