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Just like the normal likely drop on value of the last E89s as a result of the G29, there's a good chance that its the tipping point for the E85 and 6. M cars will go up like the MZ3, but the rest are likely to drop into the sub £2-3k zone. (Just like early Boxsters, now basically dead).

That's life!

Hang on for 10 or 15 years and the price will start to rise! Wait a minute, I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

Just enjoy the

Zed Five wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:58 pm Just like the normal likely drop on value of the last E89s as a result of the G29, there's a good chance that its the tipping point for the E85 and 6. M cars will go up like the MZ3, but the rest are likely to drop into the sub £2-3k zone. (Just like early Boxsters, now basically dead).

That's life!

To be honest a lot of e85 have already hit the £2-3k mark, certainly at trade/px prices they have been there for a while already. Most pre facelift cars are sub £5k these days and the post E85r can be sourced fairly easily for sub £7k and this is for cars with less than 100k. In the end they will just be priced all over the place like the older Z3 with spec and condition being the main drivers etc not age per se.
At the end of the day a lot of e85 owners have probably done quite well in the last few years with prices holding up well and if you've bought a car for £4-5k in the first place that's the absolute most your going to loose. Buy any later model E89 from a main dealer and you've lost that just driving home in markups etc and thats before the new model starts gIving it a kicking.

It will be intesting to see where E89 prices end up 10 years from now when the later ones are as old as the last of the E85s are now. Personally I think with what looks like being a highly desirable new model with none of the drawbacks of the E89 then they won't fair as well as the E85 did as for many there weren't any reasonably priced alternatives.

Paulr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:58 pm I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

Exactly, old E85s are so cheap now that it doesn't matter.
If my car has halved in value when I eventually come to sell it I wouldn't feel hard done by.
That's perhaps a little flippant, but the sentiment is correct imo.

Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

Paulr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:58 pm Hang on for 10 or 15 years and the price will start to rise! Wait a minute, I brought my car because I like it, not as an investment, so who cares?

Buy a house or Bitcoins if you want to invest

I'll be happy to hold onto and enjoy my E85 for a very long time yet. Imho whilst I think the Z3 looks quite dated in today's market (no offence Z3 owners), the E85 hasn't aged to the same extent. I still get people thinking mine is brand new and modern. Of course in time all cars reach that stage at some point and tread the line between the classics or the scrap heap. I think BMW hit a belter with the E85/E86, there's nothing else quite like it, and whilst their value will undoubtedly drop even more I won't love it any less.

ronk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:43 pm Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

Only for the first 3 years I’d say, or every e85 is now completely worthless!
Rob

Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

Ed Doe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:07 pm Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

No I wasn't aware they were bouncing back. How much of a bounce have they had?

Regarding some people thinking these cars are brand new - I may have mentioned this before but it still makes me smile.
We meet up a few times a year with a couple of friends. He really knows nowt about cars but nevertheless has clocked mine as something a bit special. Anyway, last time we got together he asked how much I paid for it – he knows I bought it in the summer of 2015.
So I asked him to guess and he says £34,000 I told him his guess was accurate in one way, as that’s what it cost new back in 2008

thanatu55 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:38 pm I'll be happy to hold onto and enjoy my E85 for a very long time yet. Imho whilst I think the Z3 looks quite dated in today's market (no offence Z3 owners), the E85 hasn't aged to the same extent. I still get people thinking mine is brand new and modern. Of course in time all cars reach that stage at some point and tread the line between the classics or the scrap heap. I think BMW hit a belter with the E85/E86, there's nothing else quite like it, and whilst their value will undoubtedly drop even more I won't love it any less.

I think the thing about the Z3 is that it was designed to have retro cues, it deliberately looked like it was referencing classic roadsters, so I think it's growing into it's looks quite nicely now. It was a bit of a mongrel under the skin and wasn't the greatest drive, but it'll find it's place as a bit of a classic and the interior certainly looks great.

ronk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:43 pm Cars tend to loose about 50% every three years don't they?

I think that’s what dealers say when you’ve got something to trade in

MACK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:47 am

Ed Doe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:07 pm Has anyone actually checked the (rising) prices of early boxsters recently?!

No I wasn't aware they were bouncing back. How much of a bounce have they had?

They're back up past the 6k mark for a decent one, and up to 8 for a really good well cared for example! Getting into a decent manual flat 6 porker of any designation it seems is becoming an increasingly expensive proprisiton it would seem!