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Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

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Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by ChillZ4 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:13 pm

Is this normal, sat in neutral with the clutch disengaged I can hear a rattle, this goes away when the clutch is depressed. I no about this noise when you turn off in neutral but is it normal when idling in neutral?

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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by Biggsy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:22 pm

Sounds like the thrust/release bearing has gone.
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by ChillZ4 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:40 pm

Sounds expensive, its out of warranty in a week!!!
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by gannet » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:50 pm

ChillZ4 wrote:Sounds expensive, its out of warranty in a week!!!
best get to your dealer then....
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by ChillZ4 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:53 pm

It was in the other day for this reason and they reckon they couldnt hear anything! I wont be able to get the car in till after the warranty has gone!
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by Biggsy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:56 pm

Supply your own clutch plate and get them to fit it for free while they are doing the bearing,
Or even better see if you can get them to put a complete clutch kit in it!, :thumbsup:
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by scottyD » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:49 pm

I had the dealer check this noise out when I was there last for Inspection 1. They said it was normal for the clutch/transmission in the E46 3 and Z4 series....

Who knows if it's really okay or not, but my dealer wasn't going to do anything more with it. Guess I'll find out down the road - 45k mi now and still going strong

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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by Smokin » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:53 pm

It's ok scottyD-- mine does it too, especially if the car is stopped on an incline, in neutral, clutch engaged. My service adviser is a pretty smart cookie and he called it "gear rattle". He says his E46 M3 does it as well. There are two counter-rotating shafts in there in very close proximity. Try it, the noise goes away if you depress the clutch pedal while still in neutral.
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by scottyD » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:00 pm

Yeah, same here - noise gone when you push the pedal down. I noticed it being worse after driving for awhile compared to just after startup.

My advisor said something about a clutch throw-out bearing being worn, but I wouldn't consider him a smart cookie, so who knows. Thanks for the info.

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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by IK. » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:10 pm

Bringing this to the top, as I have the same thing... Mine has 16 months warranty left, so should I get it down the dealer for a FREE fix? (14k miles). It rattles constantly when in neutral, but if you depress just a tad, it rattles really loudly. Can also hear it when driving.
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by Smokin » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:46 pm

IK. wrote:Bringing this to the top, as I have the same thing... Mine has 16 months warranty left, so should I get it down the dealer for a FREE fix? (14k miles). It rattles constantly when in neutral, but if you depress just a tad, it rattles really loudly. Can also hear it when driving.
That sounds different--what I was talking about was a definite rattle that goes away when clutch pedal is depressed.It doesn't increase in intensity nor can you hear it when driving. Have your dealer check it out for sure.
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by IK. » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:57 pm

But they may charge me if it's not a warranty issue...?

The noise goes away when fully depressed. The sound only gets louder from the top 5% of the pedal travel (lightly touching the pedal, basically)
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by scottyD » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:00 pm

I see what he's saying....I think I have similar symptoms....

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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by Smokin » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:05 pm

IK. wrote:But they may charge me if it's not a warranty issue...?

The noise goes away when fully depressed. The sound only gets louder from the top 5% of the pedal travel (lightly touching the pedal, basically)
The dealer shouldn't charge you-it's under warranty still. Better to check it out now than let a part fail.
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Re: Rattle in neutral, clutch disengaged

Post by ChillZ4 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:09 pm

I think this is normal.
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