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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by B21 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:46 pm

Pondrew wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:43 pm
B21 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:54 am 326Ms have been commented on..
They are not 326s. I think they may be 18" 325s. :)
Quite so...gets even better... :thumbsup:
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Post by t90ark » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:27 am

Interestingly, WBAC offer just £6k for this car.

How much credence should be given to WBAC? How much should be added to give real world value?
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Post by Nick2449 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:45 am

B21 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:54 am
t90ark wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:46 am Do we have any thoughts on this one? Any body know the place? I think I can get it for £11,300.

I'm still not fully convinced about the auto, mind.

https://www.cargurus.co.uk/Cars/link/149224901
The auto is a zf6 it’s a good box, a s/w update improves it further…

Car looks stock which is no bad thing..pity no internal shots to determine some options like audio, cruise etc

Pluses are wind diffuser and heated seats…low mileage…should run forever..

326Ms have been commented on..

Wonder why the rear Z4 badge has been relocated?

MOT history shows typical lack of oversight on maintenance….
Hi B21 when you refer to the ZF auto update how do I go about getting that done and what difference will it make?
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Post by B21 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:59 am

WBAC valuations go increasingly diverge from real world values as the cars age…my 35is had a WBAC valuation of 11.5k…originally listed by its owner at 24k…I paid 18.5k from a dealer..

Condition and options are not really figured by WBAC…also a seasonal issue…
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Post by B21 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:01 am

Nick2449 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:45 am
B21 wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:54 am
t90ark wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:46 am Do we have any thoughts on this one? Any body know the place? I think I can get it for £11,300.

I'm still not fully convinced about the auto, mind.

https://www.cargurus.co.uk/Cars/link/149224901
The auto is a zf6 it’s a good box, a s/w update improves it further…

Car looks stock which is no bad thing..pity no internal shots to determine some options like audio, cruise etc

Pluses are wind diffuser and heated seats…low mileage…should run forever..

326Ms have been commented on..

Wonder why the rear Z4 badge has been relocated?

MOT history shows typical lack of oversight on maintenance….
Hi B21 when you refer to the ZF auto update how do I go about getting that done and what difference will it make?
xHP a smart phone based app can re-program the ZF6HP box to give it the same characteristics as the later ZF8HP..ie faster shifts and more intelligent mangement…

The ZF8HP is widely regarded as one of the best gearboxes made whether it’s msnausl, DCT or auto
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Post by Nick2449 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:06 am

Thanks for the reply, I've just got my 2012 with the N20 engine and am considering a remap and want the transmission to keep up. I'm assuming any self respecting tuner could do this at the same time?
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Post by B21 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:20 am

Nick2449 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:06 am Thanks for the reply, I've just got my 2012 with the N20 engine and am considering a remap and want the transmission to keep up. I'm assuming any self respecting tuner could do this at the same time?
Sadly the N20 ZF8HP box cannot be re-mapped AFAIK :thumbsdown:

Related to the electrical architecture of the E89 which was a ‘hybrid’ of two generations of electronic systems used by BMW…

The N20 ZF8HP does a pretty good job as stock IMHO..
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Post by Nick2449 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:30 am

Thank you that is really helpful, just learning about the E89 after four years with my E85
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Post by B21 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:33 am

Nick2449 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:30 am Thank you that is really helpful, just learning about the E89 after four years with my E85
No worry ask away but maybe on a separate thread :thumbsup:
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Post by Nick2449 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:43 am

:)
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Post by Zed Baron » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:48 pm

B21 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:01 am xHP a smart phone based app can re-program the ZF6HP box to give it the same characteristics as the later ZF8HP..ie faster shifts and more intelligent management…
Hi PB, what are the costs involved with the xHP app.. subscription cost? I guess you have to buy an OBD adaptor?
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Post by B21 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:52 pm

Zed Baron wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:48 pm
B21 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:01 am xHP a smart phone based app can re-program the ZF6HP box to give it the same characteristics as the later ZF8HP..ie faster shifts and more intelligent management…
Hi PB, what are the costs involved with the xHP app.. subscription cost? I guess you have to buy an OBD adaptor?
Pass and yes..

Google xHP :thumbsup:
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Post by hopz121 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:02 pm

Zed Baron wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:48 pm
B21 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:01 am xHP a smart phone based app can re-program the ZF6HP box to give it the same characteristics as the later ZF8HP..ie faster shifts and more intelligent management…
Hi PB, what are the costs involved with the xHP app.. subscription cost? I guess you have to buy an OBD adaptor?
It’s around £190 for the licence pack which also includes all Maps. You’ll also need an approved adaptor too. I have an MHD adaptor which works for mine.

I have XHP on my 330i which is the ZF6 speed it transforms the gearbox and makes it nearly as good as the ZF8 speed well worth buying if your car is capable.

They usually do a Black Friday discount too so keep an eye out on there website :)
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Post by Zed Baron » Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:39 pm

hopz121 wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:02 pm They usually do a Black Friday discount too so keep an eye out on there website :)
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Post by t90ark » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:42 pm

Anybody got any thoughts on this one at face value?

No cruise by the look of it, MOT looks reasonably OK. Cracked wheel not too long ago, trying to find out how that was resolved.

Not far from me so could be worth a look.

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