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Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:12 pm

I have installed an aux wire into the back of my bmw business cd head unit, in place of the cd changer.

When I cycle through the modes it doesn't come up with an AUX option, I googled it and it says I need to have the radio recoded so it knows it has an aux option, however I phoned my local bmw dealer who said it doesn't need it.

It obviously needs something as there isn't an aux option!

Please help!
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:30 pm

nope.. no coding.

what wire did you use?
Does it have the required resistance between the + and - pins?

see the aux thread in my sig for details (pics are dead, but info on resistance etc is there)
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:44 pm

sk93 wrote:nope.. no coding.

what wire did you use?
Does it have the required resistance between the + and - pins?

see the aux thread in my sig for details (pics are dead, but info on resistance etc is there)
I used this one I bought off eBay,

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131190606317

Shouldn't it just be plug and play
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:51 pm

benross wrote:
sk93 wrote:nope.. no coding.

what wire did you use?
Does it have the required resistance between the + and - pins?

see the aux thread in my sig for details (pics are dead, but info on resistance etc is there)
I used this one I bought off eBay,

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131190606317

Shouldn't it just be plug and play
Sadly, this line will be the kicker here:
ebay wrote:Aux MUST be available to select before purchasing this lead
Our headunits require a specific resistance between the two input pins to trigger the headunit to show aux as an available option.
Some bmws, like the newer minis, don't and have "aux" available even if there's no cable attached.

Looking at the pics of that cable, I don't see any cross-connection between the pins, so I highly doubt there's any crossover resistance.
You could double-check this by using a multimeter and checking if there's continuity between the two pins or not (when not connected to the headunit).

If there's not, then sadly, that cable won't work.. at least, not without modification.
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by Blueross79 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:51 pm

If you have plugged it into your CD changer port then it wont show in the AUX, I think you need to just take it out and refit it in the AUX socket on the rear of the unit.
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:54 pm

looking at the pics again however, I would think modifying the cable should be fairly straightforward.
Have a look at my guide bud, specifically regarding the capacitors and resistor, as that's the only bit you'll need to do.
you could easily splice this in on the "top" half of the cable (before the female RCA connectors).
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:57 pm

Blueross79 wrote:If you have plugged it into your CD changer port then it wont show in the AUX, I think you need to just take it out and refit it in the AUX socket on the rear of the unit.
I didn't see the bit regarding the CD changer port! :?
Yes - that won't work at all :thumbsup:
needs to go in the aux socket.
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:59 pm

here's the pinout for the headunit for reference:

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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:15 pm

Blueross79 wrote:If you have plugged it into your CD changer port then it wont show in the AUX, I think you need to just take it out and refit it in the AUX socket on the rear of the unit.
I have plugged it into the back of the head unit, there was a plug which I presumed was the cd changer, I took this out and plugged the new lead in.

It fitted correctly so I presumed that was where its meant to go.

I'll have a read of the posted guide now
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:35 pm

sk93 wrote:
benross wrote:
sk93 wrote:nope.. no coding.

what wire did you use?
Does it have the required resistance between the + and - pins?

see the aux thread in my sig for details (pics are dead, but info on resistance etc is there)
I used this one I bought off eBay,

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131190606317

Shouldn't it just be plug and play
Sadly, this line will be the kicker here:
ebay wrote:Aux MUST be available to select before purchasing this lead
Our headunits require a specific resistance between the two input pins to trigger the headunit to show aux as an available option.
Some bmws, like the newer minis, don't and have "aux" available even if there's no cable attached.

Looking at the pics of that cable, I don't see any cross-connection between the pins, so I highly doubt there's any crossover resistance.
You could double-check this by using a multimeter and checking if there's continuity between the two pins or not (when not connected to the headunit).

If there's not, then sadly, that cable won't work.. at least, not without modification.
I've had a look at the guide, could you give me a quick run through on what I would have to do to the lead I have bought to adapt it?

Can I just snip some of the wires and solder in the resistor/capacitor? If so what goes where?!

Thanks for your help, I was at my witts end.
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:05 pm

benross wrote:
Blueross79 wrote:If you have plugged it into your CD changer port then it wont show in the AUX, I think you need to just take it out and refit it in the AUX socket on the rear of the unit.
I have plugged it into the back of the head unit, there was a plug which I presumed was the cd changer, I took this out and plugged the new lead in.

It fitted correctly so I presumed that was where its meant to go.

I'll have a read of the posted guide now
there's two sockets it'll fit in.
depending on your car options, you may have one filled, both filled, or none filled.
regardless, it needs to go into the socket under the fuse slot.
if it doesn't fit in here, then you'll need to take the pins out of the plug, and manually attach each pin to the corresponding pin on the headunit.

it definately will NOT work if you plug it into the "B" (CD Changer) socket. (the one on the left, when you look at the back of the headunit).



in regards to modding the cable:

EDIT - wrong info,.. fixing!
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by sk93 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:12 pm

bits you'll need as a minimum:

1x 300kΩ 0.6W Resistor - Maplin Part No: M300K - £0.16
2x 0.22uf Capacitors - Maplin Part No: WW56L - £1.12


If I was doing it on that cable, I'd do the following:

strip back a bit of the outer cable coverings from both cables in the "TOP" half of the cable, approximately half way down.
find the "positive" cable for each side (each side will have a ground and a positive, four wires in total - we are only interested in the positive wires, not the grounds)

again, strip back a bit of the covering from both positive wires so that you can access the bare wires beneath.
solder one end of a cap to each bit of bare positive wire (so you've got one cap attached to each wire - NOT one cap joining the two wires.)
then solder the resister inbetween both caps, linking them together.

you should then have the following:

wire->cap->resistor->cap->wire

reinsulate the cables and newly soldered joints.
insulate the resistors and caps.

job done.


if you're able to use a soldering iron in even just a minimal way, you'd get this done in ten minutes.
if you know what you're doing with a soldering iron, you'll do it in under two :thumbsup:
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:20 pm

sk93 wrote:bits you'll need as a minimum:

1x 300kΩ 0.6W Resistor - Maplin Part No: M300K - £0.16
2x 0.22uf Capacitors - Maplin Part No: WW56L - £1.12


If I was doing it on that cable, I'd do the following:

strip back a bit of the outer cable coverings from both cables in the "TOP" half of the cable, approximately half way down.
find the "positive" cable for each side (each side will have a ground and a positive, four wires in total - we are only interested in the positive wires, not the grounds)

again, strip back a bit of the covering from both positive wires so that you can access the bare wires beneath.
solder one end of a cap to each bit of bare positive wire (so you've got one cap attached to each wire - NOT one cap joining the two wires.)
then solder the resister inbetween both caps, linking them together.

you should then have the following:

wire->cap->resistor->cap->wire

reinsulate the cables and newly soldered joints.
insulate the resistors and caps.

job done.


if you're able to use a soldering iron in even just a minimal way, you'd get this done in ten minutes.
if you know what you're doing with a soldering iron, you'll do it in under two :thumbsup:

Right, Im pretty sure I plugged it into the right socket but ill check anyway. Thanks for the info, will pop down to my local Maplins now!

Will update with progress...
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:47 pm

Right, I did as you said and modified the lead, it is still the same.

I spliced into pin 3&4 which according to your diagram are the two inputs (left & right)

Any ideas what's gone wrong? It's plugged into the right socket also (below the fuse)
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Re: Radio not recognising AUX

Post by benross » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:55 pm

Also looking at the plug bought off eBay, I have wires to the pins 3, 4, & 10
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