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Windows opened overnight

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:02 am
by DonDon
I parked and locked my car as usual yesterday. When I came down this morning, the windows were all fully open and the door mirrors were unfolded, but the car was still locked. I keep the key in a metal case so I don't think someone was trying to clone it. No diagnostic error codes showing on ProTool.

Has anyone seen this before please?

It would have to be the morning I had it booked in for its MOT! I'm glad to say it sailed through. Nice and clean underneath and tyres wearing evenly. Good emissions figures (which I had to ask for - they don't normally provide them any more).

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:10 am
by matsmith749
I've seen something slightly similar once or twice (in a 20 year ownership period) - coming out in the morning with the windows dropped an inch as if they were prepped for opening the doors.

It was so infrequent that I just logged it as 'weird' & moved on. Never found a cause.

My thinking was that I somehow fiddled with the key / someone else did overnight.

I would say to monitor it - if it does it again you need to investigate, but for a one off I would just mark it down as 'weird' & move on.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:24 am
by pvr
The car auto locks when you haven't opened a door, so if you had for whatever reason pushed the key in your pocked, it would have opened the doors, and the windows if long enough pressed.

The doors would lock themselves again as they were not opened.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:16 pm
by ori
This happened to me a few times until I twigged what happened.
I’d lie down on sofa and the key in my pocket would unlock the car and open the windows. Then the auto lock would kick in.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:31 pm
by Pondrew
E89s without comfort access don't auto lock. I had an E89 in my garage for months unlocked (to save the battery). It never locked itself.

They also don't auto apply the handbrake after a period either. :D

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:39 am
by pvr
Are you sure about that? I don’t know any modernish car that doesn’t auto lock as that is an insurance requirement for most.

I am talking about that you lock the car, unlock it but not open the door. All my cars since the 80s have done that.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:14 am
by Pondrew
pvr wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:39 am Are you sure about that? I don’t know any modernish car that doesn’t auto lock as that is an insurance requirement for most.

I am talking about that you lock the car, unlock it but not open the door. All my cars since the 80s have done that.
Not sure now. I never took any notice of the sequence TBH but I know it stayed unlocked indefinitely in my garage. I'm gonna have to check now....oh can't the car isn't here! :lol:

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 am
by pvr
I bet you a northern beer on that. Nothing to do with leaving a car unlocked as that will stay like that forever, but specifically locking the car, unlocking the car but not touching the doors.

I have to do that every time when I wash a car, I have to unlock it and open a door, otherwise 30 seconds later it is locked again when I want to open the car to hover the inside :D

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:22 am
by DonDon
pvr wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:24 am The car auto locks when you haven't opened a door, so if you had for whatever reason pushed the key in your pocked, it would have opened the doors, and the windows if long enough pressed.

The doors would lock themselves again as they were not opened.
Unlikely that I pressed any buttons (but can't rule it out, of course). I got home, locked the car and used the same set of keys to open the front door and immediately put the keys in their pouch where they stayed until the next morning. ??????????????????

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:39 pm
by obewan
pvr wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 am I bet you a northern beer on that. Nothing to do with leaving a car unlocked as that will stay like that forever, but specifically locking the car, unlocking the car but not touching the doors.

I have to do that every time when I wash a car, I have to unlock it and open a door, otherwise 30 seconds later it is locked again when I want to open the car to hover the inside :D
Lucky for you Northern beer is cheap :wink:
I've no comfort access on my car and I can concur, no auto lock.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
by enuff_zed
Pondrew wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:31 pm E89s without comfort access don't auto lock.
Yes they do if you unlock it and don't open a door or the boot in the next two minutes.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:51 pm
by pvr
obewan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:39 pm
pvr wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 am I bet you a northern beer on that. Nothing to do with leaving a car unlocked as that will stay like that forever, but specifically locking the car, unlocking the car but not touching the doors.

I have to do that every time when I wash a car, I have to unlock it and open a door, otherwise 30 seconds later it is locked again when I want to open the car to hover the inside :D
Lucky for you Northern beer is cheap :wink:
I've no comfort access on my car and I can concur, no auto lock.
100% sure you do. Remember you have to lock it first, then unlock but do not open a door. It will lock again

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:55 pm
by obewan
enuff_zed wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
Pondrew wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:31 pm E89s without comfort access don't auto lock.
Yes they do if you unlock it and don't open a door or the boot in the next two minutes.
Mine doesn't, and I've just checked to make absolutely sure. Pretty sure my E85 didn't either

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:19 pm
by enuff_zed
obewan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:55 pm
enuff_zed wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
Pondrew wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:31 pm E89s without comfort access don't auto lock.
Yes they do if you unlock it and don't open a door or the boot in the next two minutes.
Mine doesn't, and I've just checked to make absolutely sure. Pretty sure my E85 didn't either
Mine does, but I just coded an E85 to do it a couple of days back, so probably find it's the same coding option on an E89.

Windows opened overnight

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:25 pm
by obewan
enuff_zed wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:19 pm
obewan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:55 pm
enuff_zed wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
Yes they do if you unlock it and don't open a door or the boot in the next two minutes.
Mine doesn't, and I've just checked to make absolutely sure. Pretty sure my E85 didn't either
Mine does, but I just coded an E85 to do it a couple of days back, so probably find it's the same coding option on an E89.
I must admit I was surprised it didn't auto lock and wondered if it had been coded out prior top my ownership - a long time ago, I bought it in 2016 - and why would you?
Sorry OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread