Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport?

[plenty]

There are folks who will pay £2,000 for a plate of sushi and others who spend tens of thousands for loudspeaker cable, so for some the fine margins clearly matter.

Something else to point out is that more grip isn't always better if you enjoy pushing the limits. A 35i or 40i probably deserves top-class rubber especially if it's tuned and you like to boot it in places like Scotland or Spain, but folks with less grunt and/or who like to explore the limits at achievable road speeds in southern England may actually be better off with lesser tyres, and not just to save money. Someone on this forum commented that their Z4M was less fun to drive with state-of-the-art UHP tyres because you lose all of the playfulness of the rear in the dry at least, and I'd agree with that.

[The.Analyst]

There are folks who will pay £2,000 for a plate of sushi and others who spend tens of thousands for loudspeaker cable, so for some the fine margins clearly matter.

Something else to point out is that more grip isn't always better if you enjoy pushing the limits. A 35i or 40i probably deserves top-class rubber especially if it's tuned and you like to boot it in places like Scotland or Spain, but folks with less grunt and/or who like to explore the limits at achievable road speeds in southern England may actually be better off with lesser tyres, and not just to save money. Someone on this forum commented that their Z4M was less fun to drive with state-of-the-art UHP tyres because you lose all of the playfulness of the rear in the dry at least, and I'd agree with that.

That’s very true MX5 anyone ?

[sars]

I'd love to know whether it is engineering, the design team or sales/marketing that decides how big/how wide the tyres and wheels are during the initial design process. IMHO the g29 is over tyred in regards to width, 255 front & 275 rear makes a comfortable ride not and also the cornering ability takes some of the fun out, In the dry, I have yet to reach the limit during a corner where oversteer has become necessary.

In my 1974 MG Midget it happened all the time, such fun

[B21]

I'd love to know whether it is engineering, the design team or sales/marketing that decides how big/how wide the tyres and wheels are during the initial design process. IMHO the g29 is over tyred in regards to width, 255 front & 275 rear makes a comfortable ride not and also the cornering ability takes some of the fun out, In the dry, I have yet to reach the limit during a corner where oversteer has become necessary.

In my 1974 MG Midget it happened all the time, such fun

Going off topic but BMW goes out of its way to make sure the cars don’t oversteer come what may..lots of rear camber, over size boots, lots of straight line biased geometry, very conservative stability control…a safe driver is a happy driver

[flybobbie]

I think front tyres too wide.
Reminds me the few time i've driven go kart on cold tyres.

[flybobbie]

In terms of the charts, because the scale is not starting from zero it exacerbates the differences. Your brain will automatically use the visual of the bars to compare, so if one looks ten times longer than the other, it takes ten times longer to do something. The point of charting is to help display data in a way it is more understandable and comparable, but by cutting the scale they change the comparison.

Here is the first chart on the website showing what looks like significant differences between the brands
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Here is the actual data fully visualised with a full scale, does that now change your perception of how different the brands performance is
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They do this throughout their entire website. The funny thing is if you put the data into Excel and just auto chart, it replicates exactly what they have on their website. So what they are doing is pumping data in and just copy pasting without understanding firstly WHAT charts are actually for and secondly WHY they are doing what they are doing.

/endrant

Looks like global warming data.

[alscoob]

Well, just to add to this.. have rum the Goodyear Asy 3's & 5's in standard 19" sizes on the wifes E89 over the years (Non Runflat) and need new rears while the wheels are being refurbed. Seems that SuperSport is the only option at the moment in the 255x30x19 so going to stick them on and see how they go & can let ou know.

Was thinking of going to other manufacturer but then with 6mm left on the fronts didn't make sense, so will wait until next time it needs tyres to do that.

[simnew]

Have to say I change from 19s (296 with multiple cracks) to 18’s with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asym 6. And have to say the car is so much better. They are great tyres and very grippy in the wet. Not quite the same as the ones you’re looking at, but I have the same on my 440i GC and didn’t bother going to winter tyres this year, they are that good. Different league to Pirelli p Zero at least in winter conditions

[Pondrew]

Ooh another tyre thread....
Taken to another level.
What a load of bollox.

If Lewis Hamilton was doing these multiple 'online tyre reviews' or was a member on here, then I would take some notice. Otherwise it's all amateurs giving perceived advice based on God knows what.

"I am a superb driver, according to me, and the (insert make here) are the best tyres ever in my expert opinion ". It's that ridiculous TBH.

I agree with coldel regarding the review graphs. Misleading definitely. Not that I take any notice of internet tyre reviews, and even less of customer tyre reviews (cos none of them are qualified to pass judgement).

"Pays your money, take your choice" has never been more pertinent than to selecting tyres, no matter what others say.

I bet the 'premium' tyre manufacturers rub their hands with glee when a tyre thread comes up (every hour) on a car forum.

No offence intended (except maybe one).

[sars]

Pondrew, so by what metric do you choose your tyres, best value or the one with the nicest tread pattern, if it's the former on what basis do you analyse value? If it's by personal recommendation then it has the same merits as all the other punter reviews, all are subjective except you know the person making it, and should be taken with a large dose of salt, however the actual comparative tests by tyrereviews.com are quite useful.

But we argue this every tyre thread........

[coldel]

On another forum there was one member that cited one of the benefits of their tyre choice being that the brand design on the side wall looked really good...I kid you not.

[plenty]

Can you even call yourself a car enthusiast if you haven't revelled in the deep satisfaction of beholding a freshlý-dressed Pilot Sport 5's Premium Touch Sidewall Design, which creates a sleek, matte-black aesthetic with a velvet-like micro texture?

[coldel]

I have not reveled in that particular experience no

[sars]

Since I've been posting on here, I've heard many a poster stating that they purchased Vred's because of the half V tread pattern

[plenty]

No coincidence that Vredestein partner with Giugiaro to design the look of their products.