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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Pondrew » Mon May 22, 2023 11:36 pm

vehiclescore wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:34 pm Can you give me the reg’s so I can check this for you? It depends on so many variables that I could not give you an answer without checking myself.
Not that bothered TBH. But good luck with it! :thumbsup:
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by Argyll Andy » Mon May 22, 2023 11:44 pm

vehiclescore wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:12 pm
B21 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:04 pm I guess you are evolving it anyway..
The algorithm takes into a huge amount of data. I have a database of around 60 million UK vehicles with Mot histories, average mileage, scrapped mileage etc etc. I use all of this to see common patterns with vehicles that deteriorate at a set age, average mileage etc. equally, it will scan a MOT to check if any general big issues have shown up such as Oil leaks, Engine knocking, rust on chassis. Some of which are classed as ‘advisories’ which are actually detrimental to a vehicle’s health.

The website has been designed to allow not so vehicle-educated users understand if a vehicle is good, bad, reliable, all within a simple score. It’s very complicated to get the score absolutely accurate. But it’s getting better and better every week.
Given this info, curious how my Z4, which is under 2 yrs old gets a very poor score? Lack of MOT history etc have an adverse score weighting?

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    Post by Zed Baron » Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 pm

    I only got 658! :cry: for a car with full BMW/s/h, fantastic MOT history and only 37k on the clock :( said its getting old (over 10 years old). Guess tomorrow I'll move it out of its garage after the 8 years of ownership and then the pampered jalopy better head to the scrappers, I'll join it on the heap :oldman: Shame, I took it for a sprint around Loch Lomond a couple of weekends ago and it still drives like new :wink:
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    Post by Argyll Andy » Mon May 22, 2023 11:47 pm

    Zed Baron wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 pm I took it for a sprint around Loch Lomond a couple of weekends ago and it still drives like new
    You should’ve give me a shout and we’d have joined you :driving:

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      Post by Pondrew » Mon May 22, 2023 11:52 pm

      Argyll Andy wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:44 pm Given this info, curious how my Z4, which is under 2 yrs old gets a very poor score? Lack of MOT history etc have an adverse score weighting?
      It's cos your Scottish! Racist they are! :rofl:

      Or possibly because it's bollox. I tend to lean toward the latter!
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      Post by Zed Baron » Mon May 22, 2023 11:52 pm

      Argyll Andy wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:47 pm You should’ve give me a shout and we’d have joined you :driving:
      I should have done Andy, the weather was nice for once. It was spur of the moment thing, usually spend my weekends working now :cry: Saw two E89s on the Crianlarich side, a grey and a white one. Heading up there , the road seemed to be full of Porsche's, R8's and McLarens.
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      Post by Pondrew » Mon May 22, 2023 11:54 pm

      Zed Baron wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 pm I only got 658!
      The reason above applies, mate. :lol:
      All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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      Post by Zed Baron » Tue May 23, 2023 12:03 am

      Pondrew wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:54 pm
      Zed Baron wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 pm I only got 658!
      The reason above applies, mate. :lol:
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      Post by Phoenixboy » Tue May 23, 2023 9:00 am

      I’ll settle for that😀
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      Post by B21 » Tue May 23, 2023 9:09 am

      Well my wife’s friends MGF that is worth not a lot certainly got a hammering…that one reflects reality to an extent..poor thing is close to a scrapper..
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      Post by pvr » Tue May 23, 2023 9:11 am

      My Z4 is a wreck :lol:
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      Post by True-Blue » Tue May 23, 2023 12:45 pm

      This seems pointless to me;

      Unless it’s factoring in purchase price vs market average, point in the depreciation curve, work required, work recently completed, common problems of that model, it’s inherent reliability and average cost of repairs - etc, etc… far too many variables.

      Also, some people take their vehicles to main dealer every year, have it MOT’d and then pay for everything on MOT to be fixed by main dealer. I’m guessing this would hammer a car due to failed MOT’s but not take into account Main dealer repairs/maintenance? - not saying that’s a good way to work, but lots of people do this.
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      Post by Ole gits rule » Tue May 23, 2023 1:01 pm

      My old Zed has a score of 825 - it has 83k miles on the clock on a 11 plate where as my M4 score's 855 with 31k on the clock being a 15 plate.

      SWMBO DS3 Crossback scored 454 - it failed its only MOT on a slit in the tyres, not even noticeable unless on a ramp and rectified on the spot at the stealer, her car is a 2019 with 34k on it and immaculate, with every extra on it when purchased, also states the last V5 change was 11 months ago - we have had the car since day 1 so not certain its even got the correct car (DS3 v DS3 Crossback).

      Not certain how this works as Zed Baron has a score of 658 and only 37k miles and Pondy's even less on both points?

      Seems very random on how the algorithm works and is of no use to anyone who has any knowledge of or interest in cars from what I can see right now, it seems to be heavily weighted towards mileage and MOT data which is not a very accurate way to create a score as TB has said.

      The quick tips give away more info, they appear to have nothing but mileage and MOT data, service history is not known and its states things like brake pads / tyres (consumables) have little impact on the score where as engine knocking does, how do they know what tyres are on the car /when they were changed or if the engine is knocking?

      I say a car with four branded tyres is better than a car with 4 Nagasaki no stops on there, shows someone has probably not skimped on maintenance.
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      Post by pvr » Tue May 23, 2023 1:09 pm

      My high score car is my M and it stated that the positives were that it was a one owner car, and no MOT listings and low miles (16k)
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      Post by Ole gits rule » Tue May 23, 2023 1:28 pm

      Just put my Bro California coast in there and scored 660 - absolute nonsense thats a £70k transporter less than a year old with about 4K miles on it :headbang:

      I would ignore everything spews out
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