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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
- B21
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Is it me?
Seems like every other day somebody is off loading a 35i/35is at what by last year’s standards are low prices…
To be fair some of them are higher mileage / older examples…
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155553120564 ... SwObJkX6qz
This chap says he’s spent 6.5k on his in the last year and now it’s got a hydraulic leak from the roof..
Yellow 35i at £14.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... 5077119023
Another 5 on AT under £12k
Seems like every other day somebody is off loading a 35i/35is at what by last year’s standards are low prices…
To be fair some of them are higher mileage / older examples…
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155553120564 ... SwObJkX6qz
This chap says he’s spent 6.5k on his in the last year and now it’s got a hydraulic leak from the roof..
Yellow 35i at £14.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... 5077119023
Another 5 on AT under £12k
We choose to go to on with this endeavour at this time and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…
A very modified Atacama Yellow 35is
A very modified Atacama Yellow 35is
- Lynchy
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
All I keep seeing is how many things go wrong with these cars and how much they cost to get repaired. Perhaps that is a factor for people wanting to sell, who knows. I have been thinking about getting one but not so sure now as I’m having so much fun in my 3.0si and not to mention the ZMR in the garage.
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Yup, they have seen the light and are trading them in for cars that go round corners and stay in one piece until the end of your journey.
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Perhaps it the financial squeeze that making people sell their weekend/sunny day toys.
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Prices are all over the place right now. I spent all winter searching for the right vehicle and just picked up a 2013 35is in Germany which was in very good condition with full service history and complete owners history as well. I looked at hundreds of Z4s in Europe over the past 6 months and due to the fact there are so many of these on the roads, the vast majority of vehicles for sale are in poor condition as they age or have spotty history.
There is one shop in the Netherlands that specializes in importing good specimen BMWs and especially Z4s, mainly from Germany, shining them up perfectly and selling them at a premium in the Netherlands. A good example LCI 35is with sub 60k Miles from them will cost you 35-40K EUR right now. https://www.carcreations.nl/ this gives a good idea of the high end in Europe of nice cars with good history and good options. You can get a good LCI 35is for 30-35K privately in Germany these days but they are few an far between.
In the UK it seems prices are much much lower.
There is one shop in the Netherlands that specializes in importing good specimen BMWs and especially Z4s, mainly from Germany, shining them up perfectly and selling them at a premium in the Netherlands. A good example LCI 35is with sub 60k Miles from them will cost you 35-40K EUR right now. https://www.carcreations.nl/ this gives a good idea of the high end in Europe of nice cars with good history and good options. You can get a good LCI 35is for 30-35K privately in Germany these days but they are few an far between.
In the UK it seems prices are much much lower.
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And yet the prices of used cars in the UK is higher than it has ever been in my lifetime. Mostly now driven by the huge increase in new car costs IMHO. Covid started it with a lack of new cars at all, now manufacturers have hiked their new prices by 30-40% in may cases.
I've been looking at 5 year old cars that are 90% of their original retail cost due to a new version of the same car being 35% more than the cost 5 years ago.
There was a 'rule of thumb' for used prices in the UK until quite recently:
40-50% depreciation in 3 years
50% of the 50% residual in 6 years
And so on until everything was a few hundred quid then stayed there. Then 'desirable' or exceptional cars started rising from there.
Not anymore. That rule has been torn up and it's "get as much as you can. Some idiot will pay it". And they do!
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.
F31 320i. Good car.
E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
Mazda3 sold
Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!
F31 320i. Good car.
E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
Mazda3 sold
Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Low milage late plate cars in good shape still seem to be strong money.
A couple of 2016 AUC cars on the trader for £28k.
A couple of 2016 AUC cars on the trader for £28k.
From Jan 2023 2016 e89 Z4 35is / mineral white / coral red interior / all the extras
SOLD 2010 e89 Z4 35is / space grey / coral red interior / all the extras
SOLD 2007 e85 Z4 3.0 si sport / midnight blue / champagne interior
SOLD 2010 e89 Z4 35is / space grey / coral red interior / all the extras
SOLD 2007 e85 Z4 3.0 si sport / midnight blue / champagne interior
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
This is true, my mate in the UK just paid 13k for a 5 year old Toyota Yaris with around mid 20s to 30k on the clock. A few years back I was selling 3 year old Yaris with a lot less miles for around 6k! But still prices in the UK are way lower than anywhere in Europe or anyone else for that matter. You should still consider yourself lucky.Pondrew wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 7:39 pmAnd yet the prices of used cars in the UK is higher than it has ever been in my lifetime. Mostly now driven by the huge increase in new car costs IMHO. Covid started it with a lack of new cars at all, now manufacturers have hiked their new prices by 30-40% in may cases.
I've been looking at 5 year old cars that are 90% of their original retail cost due to a new version of the same car being 35% more than the cost 5 years ago.
There was a 'rule of thumb' for used prices in the UK until quite recently:
40-50% depreciation in 3 years
50% of the 50% residual in 6 years
And so on until everything was a few hundred quid then stayed there. Then 'desirable' or exceptional cars started rising from there.
Not anymore. That rule has been torn up and it's "get as much as you can. Some idiot will pay it". And they do!
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Fixing up an older one is still significantly cheaper than a new one... and the new ones.. well just don't make me smile like the e89... It's a fun little car and I'm not handing out $60k to have that fun.
Christopher
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'fits in progress - PDC, Cameras, Comfort Access, Respray/Correction - all queued for poor weather.
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2011 E89 Sdrive35i - Deep Sea Blue, Beige Kansas Leather
'fits in progress - PDC, Cameras, Comfort Access, Respray/Correction - all queued for poor weather.
(9) E46 convertibles; (1) E39 540i; (2) E36 Z3 roadsters; (1) Pre-prod E36 Z3- all gone
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
I see you have the N54 engine.....smiles may not last too long, though. They tend to be a very demanding mistress.Christopher72 wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 10:55 pm Fixing up an older one is still significantly cheaper than a new one... and the new ones.. well just don't make me smile like the e89... It's a fun little car and I'm not handing out $60k to have that fun.
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.
F31 320i. Good car.
E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
Mazda3 sold
Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!
F31 320i. Good car.
E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
Mazda3 sold
Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
lol.. Even with all of the silver B21 has put into making his banana sliders better than a new e89... still prolly isn't $60k per car, I'm guessing.
Christopher
2011 E89 Sdrive35i - Deep Sea Blue, Beige Kansas Leather
'fits in progress - PDC, Cameras, Comfort Access, Respray/Correction - all queued for poor weather.
(9) E46 convertibles; (1) E39 540i; (2) E36 Z3 roadsters; (1) Pre-prod E36 Z3- all gone
2011 E89 Sdrive35i - Deep Sea Blue, Beige Kansas Leather
'fits in progress - PDC, Cameras, Comfort Access, Respray/Correction - all queued for poor weather.
(9) E46 convertibles; (1) E39 540i; (2) E36 Z3 roadsters; (1) Pre-prod E36 Z3- all gone
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
But, but, but Brexit was supposed to put £££ in the pockets of the British people. Yet they cannot afford to fix a puny German engine ? Bloody hell !
Oh … ‘banana sliders’ … instant classic !
Oh … ‘banana sliders’ … instant classic !
2016 35is, monoballs, camber plates, KWV3, PS4S, xHP, MHD, LFB pedal, flat bottom wheel, red indicators, black headlamps
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Are people off loading their 35/35is?
Does anyone want a roadster these days? Does anyone even know what a 35i/35is is?
When people ask me what car I drive, I always mention the Focus first, then I describe the Z4 as an orange 2 seat convertible BMW with a loud exhaust. Even if they're a "car person", there's little chance they'll know what I mean if I say 35is.
That first one on ebay... he spent £2.5k on replacing injectors even though nothing was wrong with them, and another £4k on other probably unnecessary preventative maintenance, then decided to sell the car anyway? For £9k? Either he's mental, or something doesn't add up with the story...
Oh, and after 2 years and 17k miles, my disastrous N54 has needed new coils and possibly a new rocker cover gasket. It's a wonder I've managed to keep it on the road without winning the lottery
When people ask me what car I drive, I always mention the Focus first, then I describe the Z4 as an orange 2 seat convertible BMW with a loud exhaust. Even if they're a "car person", there's little chance they'll know what I mean if I say 35is.
That first one on ebay... he spent £2.5k on replacing injectors even though nothing was wrong with them, and another £4k on other probably unnecessary preventative maintenance, then decided to sell the car anyway? For £9k? Either he's mental, or something doesn't add up with the story...
Oh, and after 2 years and 17k miles, my disastrous N54 has needed new coils and possibly a new rocker cover gasket. It's a wonder I've managed to keep it on the road without winning the lottery
2014 E89 35is Valencia Orange 788M wheels (M2 Competition), E90 M3 control arms, Eibach Pro Kit Springs, MHD Stage 1