D1 or Neutral at traffic lights?

[sars]

Don’t sit stationary with your foot on the brake at traffic lights, especially at night, I absolutely hate being directly behind someone stopped with their foot on the brake dazzling me, ffs, don’t be a lazy tw4t use your handbrake

It’s almost as bad as rear intensity lights on when it’s raining

Modern cars with automatic hold/handbrake are great, you just have to remember not to rev the engine at a traffic light race

[matsmith749]

Sorry - I absolutely NEVER use the electronic parking brake unless I am parking up & leaving the vehicle.

Since the days of the physical 'pull it up' lever, that's always been tha case. At least true for me & I reckon 95% of the other drivers of automatics or DCT engine cars.

If you are struggling to cope with brake lights at traffic lights, you are gonna need to look inwards for a solution.

[smorris_12]

I had a Jag S-Type which was one of the first cars with an e-brake and I made a point of never using it as they were prone to failing expensively!

[Busterboo]

... (and your brake leg gets tired)

Do you drive an auto with two feet?

Really curious to know.

[smorris_12]

Some people do, one per pedal. Never struck me as a particularly useful thing to do and likely to cause problems if they then leap into a manual.

I knew someone who did drive like this. Watching him do a 47 point turn to drive forward into a parking space in a multi-story car park instead of just reversing in in one go convinced me that people who did this probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.

[Busterboo]

Some people do, one per pedal. Never struck me as a particularly useful thing to do ...

I was taught that it was a particularly dangerous thing to do.

Apparently, in emergency braking, 'one per pedal' drivers can slam both feet down.

[Marcoose]

Some people do, one per pedal. Never struck me as a particularly useful thing to do ...

I was taught that it was a particularly dangerous thing to do.

Apparently, in emergency braking, 'one per pedal' drivers can slam both feet down.

Easy there, Chicken Little. It is not dangerous at all if you do it right with the right tools.

[BMWZ4MC]

Don’t sit stationary with your foot on the brake at traffic lights, especially at night, I absolutely hate being directly behind someone stopped with their foot on the brake dazzling me, ffs, don’t be a lazy tw4t use your handbrake

It’s almost as bad as rear intensity lights on when it’s raining

Modern cars with automatic hold/handbrake are great, you just have to remember not to rev the engine at a traffic light race

I agree wholeheartedly about both the brake lights when stationary for prolonged periods and the unwarranted use of fog lights. The switch for both front and rear fog lights should be directly connected to a 30mph speed limiter - I doubt many people would ever use the fog lights again!

My other pet hate is people who drive at night using only daytime running lights not realising that they are almost invisible from behind on an unlit road.

[Busterboo]

Some people do, one per pedal. Never struck me as a particularly useful thing to do ...

I was taught that it was a particularly dangerous thing to do.

Apparently, in emergency braking, 'one per pedal' drivers can slam both feet down.

Easy there, Chicken Little. It is not dangerous at all if you do it right with the right tools.

How do these tools - the 'LFB brake'(?) - work, then?

[smorris_12]

Literally WTF am I looking at? That's either an April Fool or the ultimate solution-looking-for-a-problem.

[Pondrew]

Don’t sit stationary with your foot on the brake at traffic lights, especially at night, I absolutely hate being directly behind someone stopped with their foot on the brake dazzling me, ffs, don’t be a lazy tw4t use your handbrake

It’s almost as bad as rear intensity lights on when it’s raining

It's in the highway code now (not sure if it always was). My daughter just did her theory so I learned a lot of stuff which I didn't know for the last 38 years!

[Marcoose]

How do these tools - the 'LFB brake'(?) - work, then?

Like any other brake pedal. You push on it, the car stops.

I’ve done several controlled emergency brakes, and a few real ones, including Thursday when a skateboarder crossed the junction without looking. It’s massively efficient, better than the regular pedal. In traffic, I’m often already resting the foot on the pedal, sometimes already adding pressure. My reaction time is cut by 1 second. That’s 45 feet. For us bikers, it’s like two fingers on the brake lever. In spirited drives, it’s like toe-heel, but better.

It took a few weeks/months to get the hang of it, but now it’s second nature. Even wifey uses at steep hills. I’ve tried the OE pedal for LFB, but the angles didn’t work with my hips. They would ache after a long drive.

It’s a pity more drivers don’t train themselves and use LFB. It’s far better than removing and re-applying the right foot.

But like with everything new …

[B21]

How do these tools - the 'LFB brake'(?) - work, then?

Like any other brake pedal. You push on it, the car stops.

I’ve done several controlled emergency brakes, and a few real ones, including Thursday when a skateboarder crossed the junction without looking. It’s massively efficient, better than the regular pedal. In traffic, I’m often already resting the foot on the pedal, sometimes already adding pressure. My reaction time is cut by 1 second. That’s 45 feet. For us bikers, it’s like two fingers on the brake lever. In spirited drives, it’s like toe-heel, but better.

It took a few weeks/months to get the hang of it, but now it’s second nature. Even wifey uses at steep hills. I’ve tried the OE pedal for LFB, but the angles didn’t work with my hips. They would ache after a long drive.

It’s a pity more drivers don’t train themselves and use LFB. It’s far better than removing and re-applying the right foot.

But like with everything new …

I wonder what the DSC, TCU and ECU think when they see brake and throttle being interacted at the same time ?

[Marcoose]

I wonder what the DSC, TCU and ECU think when they see brake and throttle being interacted at the same time ?

It’s possible both actions send the Bavarian computers in a whirlwind. From the driver seat, it’s business as usual. Heel-toe action has worked just fine with many BMW models. Ask the specialist.

[sars]

Don’t sit stationary with your foot on the brake at traffic lights, especially at night, I absolutely hate being directly behind someone stopped with their foot on the brake dazzling me, ffs, don’t be a lazy tw4t use your handbrake

It’s almost as bad as rear intensity lights on when it’s raining

It's in the highway code now (not sure if it always was). My daughter just did her theory so I learned a lot of stuff which I didn't know for the last 38 years!

It’s rule 236 of the Highway Code, which then refers to 226, the less than 100 metres visibility rule. If it’s raining that hard on the motorway that visibility is down to 100 metres I’ll not be travelling very fast and I will have them on too. The culprits that I come across on the motorway do so when it’s a drizzle and not torrential rain.