Your opinions on car tax

[mr wilks]

Many will manipulate the figures in a man maths style to make the pill more tolerable to swallow but the simple answer to the Op is its already happened / happening . Demand most certainly not what it was & values currently are what they were 7 or 8 years ago .
ignore the last 2 years when all car values went awol & buyers jumped in with scant thought , the reality now for the majority is that ved - mpg - service costs will factor high in 90% of car owners decision making , ( none of which are particularly favourable with the ZM ) add in the age & the functionality it doesn't help with desirability at all .
Numbers available of decent examples will always help counteract the negatives but demand for them is unlikely to outstrip supply anytime soon .

[Nanu]

How about taxing the driver instead of the car?

To drive a car on the road you pay a set amount. In return you get a licence plate that is personal to you to show you are licenced.

Own as many cars as you like all with the same licence plate. You can only drive one at a time.

[mr wilks]

How about taxing the driver instead of the car?

To drive a car on the road you pay a set amount. In return you get a licence plate that is personal to you to show you are licenced.

Own as many cars as you like all with the same licence plate. You can only drive one at a time.

That sounds way too much like a fair & common sense approach next you will suggest everybody is responsible for their own pensions & council tax is based on adults living in the property & not value

[Pondrew]

council tax is based on adults living in the property & not value

I think that was done once....Poll Tax. Didn't go down too well IIRC.

[buzyg]

It did occur to me that a V12 DB9 or DB11 of the right year are cheaper to road tax than an ///MR

As others have said if it is the one you want and you have the money, then the car tax is just one small thing. If I do buy another ///MR I think it will spend a few months a year sorn. Never done that yet though, so maybe not. Too much fun driving roof down, on those odd perfect winter days. Which is what it was about for me.

[pvr]

council tax is based on adults living in the property & not value

I think that was done once....Poll Tax. Didn't go down too well IIRC.

He was being sarcastic

[RMB]

The tax will be free one day won’t it when they reach a certain age? Is it 25 years or 40?
Cars not drivers that is, now there’s an idea!

[buzyg]

At present it is 40 years in the UK. So cars from 1983 if you have a nice rust free Nissan Cherry Turbo. I'm your man.

[RMB]

Oh dear some way to go yet then. Bring on 2046!

[Nanu]

Going by the age of a car doesn’t make sense.

A 40year old V8 must be more polluting than a modern engine, but when has common sense come into the equation?

PS. As a couple with no kids I was in favour of the Poll Tax. Bring it back I say and make people with large families who are more of a drain on council resources pay. ( suspect this thread may not be a place for that discussion, apologies)

[pvr]

I was in favour as well Nanu, as a non holder of a British passport I didn't exist on the voting register so didn't have to pay it

[BMWZ4MC]

I find it frustrating that VED is charged by the month for every month or part thereof, but refunded only by the whole unused month.
I keep my RS4 in the UK for use when we come back to Europe. It is SORN’ed whilst we are overseas and taxed only when we want to use it. Almost always I have to pay vastly more than the pro rata amount for the days I drive the car. For example, we were in the UK for a few weeks over Christmas and I had to pay VED for December and January despite being in the country for far fewer than 62 days.
There is absolutely no reason (except profiteering) why VED cannot be charged by the day and refunded by the day.

[BMWZ4MC]

In my opinion all cars should be taxed on weight, regardless of propulsion system. Tyre and brake particles pollute solidly, not to mention the damage to the road surfaces, which around here are laughably appalling. Just my opinion.

Owen

The NSW Registration fee is levied by weight category, so it is exactly as you describe. However, like the UK system, it makes no endeavours to reflect the number of miles that vehicle is driven each year. Damage to the road surface reflects the load and number of cycles, so both are important.

[brillomaster]

the tax system is pretty retarded, really...

common sense prevailed partly in 2017 when a flat vehicle tax was introduced, with an extra chunk for expensive cars. but why wasnt this back dated to all cars manufactured before then?

it makes no sense to me that a full fat V8 range rover built in 2016 is £630 to tax, but the same car built in 2017 is now just £165 to tax, now its older than 5 years and the expensive car tax period has passed.

but then, it made no sense that a BMW M3 made in 2005 is £360 a year, but a BMW M3 made in 2006 is £630 a year.

[Nick W]

Couldn't be a much fairer way than putting a percentage on fuel (including electric charge points). The more miles or less efficient your car, the more you pay and no dodging it. Look how much money would be saved by closing that arm of the DVLA.