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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:15 pm

I'm after a bit of advice please..
The old Z4 (N20) is having an oil change and possibly brake fluid at a local garage (as I can't be doing with the mess and logistics of DIY) but I am planning on changing the plugs, pollen and air filters myself.
Is there anything I need to do specifically to change the plugs? I have a plug socket (14mm I believe) but do I need to check gaps on the new ones, disconnect the battery, lubricate the sealing rings, etc? I have never changed plugs before. The filters are easy peasy.
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Post by B21 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:39 pm

You need the thin, deep wall version with an articulating joint to get to the back ones..you should always check the gaps, in case they were dropped, mishandled etc, plugs are fitted dry with torque wrench

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Post by enuff_zed » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:58 pm

Pondrew, if you've never done it before, here's a little tip for you.
Put the car wheels on dollies. Put the socket on the spark plug and hold still while you get wifey to spin the car round. :roll:
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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm

B21 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:39 pm You need the thin, deep wall version with an articulating joint to get to the back ones..you should always check the gaps, in case they were dropped, mishandled etc, plugs are fitted dry with torque wrench
I've got all the sockets and a torque wrench (23nm I read somewhere) but I haven't got a set of feeler gauges (I don't think)!
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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:16 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:58 pm Pondrew, if you've never done it before, here's a little tip for you.
Put the car wheels on dollies. Put the socket on the spark plug and hold still while you get wifey to spin the car round.
This is serious. I am about to embark on a mechanical adventure so I need all my ducks in a row. :)
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Post by Chris_D » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:19 pm

Pondrew wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:15 pm I can't be doing with the mess and logistics
The 'logistics' of an oil change??
Wow.
It's like saying I can fry an egg but I can't be doin with them sausages. They're a bit beyond my skillset.
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Post by Z4paul » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:28 pm

enuff_zed wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:58 pm Pondrew, if you've never done it before, here's a little tip for you.
Put the car wheels on dollies. Put the socket on the spark plug and hold still while you get wifey to spin the car round. :roll:
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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:30 pm

Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:19 pm
Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:19 pm The 'logistics' of an oil change??
Wow.
It's like saying I can fry an egg but I can't be doin with them sausages. They're a bit beyond my skillset.
OK if it makes you happy I will put it another way:

I am too feckin old and knackered to be lying under a Z4 and messing about with sump plugs. I am also not quite poor enough to have to!

Better? :D
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Post by Chris_D » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:39 pm

Pondrew wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:30 pm
Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:19 pm
Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:19 pm The 'logistics' of an oil change??
Wow.
It's like saying I can fry an egg but I can't be doin with them sausages. They're a bit beyond my skillset.
OK if it makes you happy I will put it another way:

I am too feckin old and knackered to be lying under a Z4 and messing about with sump plugs. I am also not quite poor enough to have to!

Better? :D
You knackered old fart.
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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:53 pm

Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:39 pm You knackered old fart.
That's me! :D
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Post by grannyknot » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:38 pm

Pondrew wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
B21 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:39 pm You need the thin, deep wall version with an articulating joint to get to the back ones..you should always check the gaps, in case they were dropped, mishandled etc, plugs are fitted dry with torque wrench
I've got all the sockets and a torque wrench (23nm I read somewhere) but I haven't got a set of feeler gauges (I don't think)!
Almost all spark plugs these days, the good ones at least come with a plastic cylinder covering the electrodes and preventing the gap from getting bumped. If you don't want to buy a spark plug gaping tool you'll probably be fine.
I have to admit that I still do check the gap on each new plug, old habits die hard but I can't say I have found more than 1 or 2 that needed adjusting in hundreds new ones that I have installed.
Also, they do have these terrific evacuation pumps now the suck up the used oil through the dip stick hole, no mess, no lying on a cold concrete floor.
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Post by Chris_D » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:45 pm

grannyknot wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:38 pm
Also, they do have these terrific evacuation pumps now the suck up the used oil through the dip stick hole, no mess, no lying on a cold concrete floor.
No dipstick tube.
Yeah. Rubbish.
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Post by grannyknot » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm

Chris_D wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:45 pm
grannyknot wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:38 pm
Also, they do have these terrific evacuation pumps now the suck up the used oil through the dip stick hole, no mess, no lying on a cold concrete floor.
No dipstick tube.
Yeah. Rubbish.
:lol:
LOL still shaking my about that, let's keep the owner from ever going under the hood.
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Post by B21 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm

Pondweed…I forgot…on the N20 with pneumatic waste gate control the engine cover has two itsy bitsy connectors hidden from view, under the cover on the LHS as you look at the engine to do with boost management…they are push fit on barb connectors…easily broken off requiring a new cover (no boost if broken)…

Maybe on a 18i they aren’t there…

Also if they are there remember to reconnect otherwise the car is smooooothhhh but slowwww…

Don’t ask how I know… :tumbleweed:
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Post by Pondrew » Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:31 pm

B21 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm Pondweed…I forgot…on the N20 with pneumatic waste gate control the engine cover has two itsy bitsy connectors hidden from view, under the cover on the LHS as you look at the engine to do with boost management…they are push fit on barb connectors…easily broken off requiring a new cover (no boost if broken)…

Maybe on a 18i they aren’t there…

Also if they are there remember to reconnect otherwise the car is smooooothhhh but slowwww…

Don’t ask how I know…
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