Energy costs (again)

[pvr]

1150 kw for December here

30p per kw fixed until April 24, not had the government handout yet. Not sure why not (Scottish Power).

Nor the oil handout

[Chris_D]

Everyone here in NL received a 'free' chunk of change (€250/month) from the government via a rebate from their energy suppliers in Nov and Dec as a subsidy to rising energy costs.
It meant that I actually made a profit of €88/month which I happily accepted.

I feel however it might just be placating tactics for when energy prices will really start to go up and begin panicking people into thinking of chopping up furniture for firewood ...

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[N4LLY]

1150 kw

That's impresive for a mansion

680 KW 7th Dec to 9th Jan for a one bed flat

[Pondrew]

Think my Economy 7 tariff is not "Economy"

First time i've felt the need to research

I presume you have some kind of electric 'storage' heating if you are on economy 7?
You could try only cooking and washing/ showering in the middle of the night, that may help!

[Pondrew]

That's impresive for a mansion

They only use the East Wing in the Winter, though. Get the servants to cover the antique furniture in the rest of the 'pile'.
PVR's high leccy is all the antique candelabras they have with 50 bulbs in each.

[Pondrew]

Everyone here in NL received a 'free' chunk of change (€250/month) from the government via a rebate from their energy suppliers in Nov and Dec as a subsidy to rising energy costs.

We in the UK get £400 divided by six months, so £67 a month until April. About the same overall.

No-one has explained why energy prices are going to rise again when wholesale prices have been falling since the Autumn and are now roughly the same as they were two years ago.

[TitanTim]

Everyone here in NL received a 'free' chunk of change (€250/month) from the government via a rebate from their energy suppliers in Nov and Dec as a subsidy to rising energy costs.

No-one has explained why energy prices are going to rise again when wholesale prices have been falling since the Autumn and are now roughly the same as they were two years ago.

This is what I don't understand, and to add ontop it's predicted energy prices won't fall to levels of 12 months ago for a few years to come, why not? It feels like the energy companies are making crazy profits (if true) yet seemingly can carry on charging what they like and using the old chestnut demand is outsripping supply

Tim.

[Nanu]

The way energy prices are calculated is a con and needs sorting. We all should be paying less.

If green energy from wind and solar is all that is required on any given day for the Nations energy needs, then the tariff is that of renewables which is cheap.

If however this is not sufficient and the nations power supply needs topping up from gas fired power stations, even if it only the slightest amount, then instead of being charged for the renewable energy at the renewable energy price plus the gas price for the remainder, the whole lot is charged at the gas price.

The renewable producers are making a killing. Not only are they getting the higher price but they also get the green subsidies we are all paying on our bills. The whole thing is a rip off.

[axelleveau]

The way energy prices are calculated is a con and needs sorting. We all should be paying less.

If green energy from wind and solar is all that is required on any given day for the Nations energy needs, then the tariff is that of renewables which is cheap.

If however this is not sufficient and the nations power supply needs topping up from gas fired power stations, even if it only the slightest amount, then instead of being charged for the renewable energy at the renewable energy price plus the gas price for the remainder, the whole lot is charged at the gas price.

The renewable producers are making a killing. Not only are they getting the higher price but they also get the green subsidies we are all paying on our bills. The whole thing is a rip off.

That's why you need a nationalised energy supply but I'll probably be called a commi and told only the tories can lead us in those troubled times

[pvr]

Don’t know anymore to be honest. Looking at the railways is a great example of failures and ridiculous salaries. They are about 100% overpaid for the job they do and still moan, but would state owned mean more realistic salaries?

[MikeyH]

Even more strikes probably.

[Smartbear]

Don’t know anymore to be honest. Looking at the railways is a great example of failures and ridiculous salaries. They are about 100% overpaid for the job they do and still moan, but would state owned mean more realistic salaries?

Do you think nurses are overpaid as well?
Rob

[pvr]

Don’t know anymore to be honest. Looking at the railways is a great example of failures and ridiculous salaries. They are about 100% overpaid for the job they do and still moan, but would state owned mean more realistic salaries?

Do you think nurses are overpaid as well?
Rob

An independent pay review body determines the pay level based on many factors. Demanding a 10% or higher pay rise for a temporary inflation situation beggars belief. It is unaffordable and makes future pay rises even more expensive.

Private sector pay increases are on average 4%, so why public sector staff should get more makes no sense especially as they already have much better secondary benefits.

[Smartbear]

Don’t know anymore to be honest. Looking at the railways is a great example of failures and ridiculous salaries. They are about 100% overpaid for the job they do and still moan, but would state owned mean more realistic salaries?

Do you think nurses are overpaid as well?
Rob

An independent pay review body determines the pay level based on many factors. Demanding a 10% or higher pay rise for a temporary inflation situation beggars belief. It is unaffordable and makes future pay rises even more expensive.

Private sector pay increases are on average 4%, so why public sector staff should get more makes no sense especially as they already have much better secondary benefits.

Office for National statistics shows 2.2% public opposed to 6.6% private up to September last year, when you consider they pay much more tax than self employed people you can understand why they struggle to recruit enough staff.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlab ... 2022-11-23
Rob

[ThePocketGT]

We ditched the oven and brought a dual air fryer mid November and have made a significant change to our usage. The oven was last used Christmas day for 4 hours and haven't used it since.