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Winter air replacement month

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Christopher72 » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:40 pm

It's getting to that time of year. Which month do you change out all of the summer air with winter air for your tires.. November or December?

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Post by Marcoose » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:08 am

It’s the first time I’ve ever heard of ‘replacing air’. Typically I check pressure (and wear) once a month. Even when I lived in the Snow Belt or in Europe, either I changed from summer to winter tyres (and rims), or had a year-around tyre. I pay particular attention to the big swings, because ambient air temperature will (obviously) change tyre pressure. Otherwise, I’m a lost of ‘replacing air’.
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Post by Christopher72 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:12 am

Make sure to watch at 8:51 for important information to finish the job
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Post by Marcoose » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:45 am

For Mr Simpleton here, what is ‘replacing air’ ?
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Post by Scubaregs » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:47 am

Marcoose wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:45 am For Mr Simpleton here, what is ‘replacing air’ ?
It's all about temperature and density. Cold air is denser than warm air and therefore heavier. Although heavier, being denser it expands less so you need more heavier winter air to get the same amount as summer air in the tires.
The downside is a loss of economy and performance due to the extra weight, however this is balanced by the colder denser winter air allowing more air into the fuel/air mixture.
It's a very exact science, the formulae are pretty complicated.
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Post by enuff_zed » Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:47 am

That’s inflation for you 🙄
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Post by Marcoose » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:27 am

Ah, I see, the smart lads are up and full of energy. Brilliant.

But what is ‘air replacement’ ? You remove the air in the tyre and replace with … new air, hydrogen? Because checking pressure is just adding or bleeding a bit. Dafuq is ‘air replacement’?
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Post by flybobbie » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:50 am

I do my bit for the environment, i fill car tyres with CO2.
Now if we all did that we could stop global warming.

What could be significant is actual atmospheric pressure.
Are tyre pressures based on the international standard atmosphere.
So only check tyres when atmospheric air pressure is 1013 hPa and temperature 15 degrees C..
So you need a barometer in your car.
Not sure there is space on the dash for that.
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Post by buzyg » Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:36 am

enuff_zed wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:47 am That’s inflation for you 🙄
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Post by Pondrew » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:50 am

All joking aside, there is one gas which defies Boyle's first law of thermodynamics, of pressure and temperature being directly related.
It is excreted by a large insect found only in Madagascar, which are 'farmed' to harvest the gas.
It is made up of Carbon Monoxide, Carbon and Potassium; chemical symbol of 'COCK'.
I buy it for my car tyres. It is so rare and expensive that even Amazon don't sell it.
You can buy it directly from the link below. HTH
www.getsomecock.com
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Post by N4LLY » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:06 am

Not sure i want to click that link :wink: :rofl:
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Post by smorris_12 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:59 am

I live in the south so keep the same air all year round. But I do use a 78% nitrogen mix - if it's good enough to put in 747 tyres, it's good enough for me.
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Post by B21 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:24 pm

smorris_12 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:59 am I live in the south so keep the same air all year round. But I do use a 78% nitrogen mix - if it's good enough to put in 747 tyres, it's good enough for me.
Actually most commercial and military aircraft tyres are inflated with 100% nitrogen….primarily to avoid moisture being injected into the tyres which would freeze altitude..in addition the CO2 content of normal air tends to diffuse through the rubber more easily than other gases… :thumbsup:

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Post by Christopher72 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:01 pm

Marcoose wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:27 am Ah, I see, the smart lads are up and full of energy. Brilliant.
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Dafuq is ‘air replacement’?
:poke: lmao
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Post by Marcoose » Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:09 pm

So ‘air replacement’ is simply add more air. Go figure. Christopher, back to your query, check tyre pressure about once a month irrespective of season. Keep an air pump in the boot anyway, and tyre patch kits, because as YouTube you’ll tell you, there’s no spare in your Zed.
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