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Post by Pondrew » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:29 pm

Nanu wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:07 pm You follow the MSM too much. Boris and Sunak were attending the cabinet office for a pre planned meeting. Unknown to them his wife and staff who were also attending the meeting presented him with a birthday cake.

I seem to recall Starmer using the defence of his curry and beer being a work event. Funny how his case was a break between work meetings and Boris not
The met spent £500,000 (God knows how) investigating this debacle. Boris and Co were guilty and I don't give two shites about Starmer as he wasn't in charge (then).
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Post by Nanu » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:40 am

Pondrew wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:29 pm
Nanu wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:07 pm You follow the MSM too much. Boris and Sunak were attending the cabinet office for a pre planned meeting. Unknown to them his wife and staff who were also attending the meeting presented him with a birthday cake.

I seem to recall Starmer using the defence of his curry and beer being a work event. Funny how his case was a break between work meetings and Boris not
The met spent £500,000 (God knows how) investigating this debacle. Boris and Co were guilty and I don't give two shites about Starmer as he wasn't in charge (then).
True but Starmer was all over the media saying how whiter than white he was and hammering Boris for breaching the rules. Hypocrisy springs to mind.
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Post by Vornwend » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am

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Post by Argyll Andy » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:05 pm

Vornwend wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am boris-01.jpeg
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    Post by Stevo1987 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:07 pm

    Pondrew wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:37 pm
    Nanu wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:48 pm Eating cake on your birthday. Serious stuff and definitely a sackable offence
    Or put another way:
    Breaking his own rules that HE put in place, as he was the PM so the buck stops there, while thousands of people died frightened and alone because their relatives were not allowed anywhere near them due to the rules that HE put in place.

    Then not giving a sh*t and lying to everybody.

    Unforgiveable; but hey never mind. Come back all is forgiven! :x
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    Post by sars » Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:47 pm

    Vornwend wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am boris-01.jpeg
    Most excellent.
    The difference between Boris and Starmer, the police decided that Boris’s broke his own rules and Starmer did not. Nanu, the more you post, the more you remind me of either a nut-job conspiracy theorist or a modern day William Joyce :lol:
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    Post by Nanu » Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:45 pm

    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:47 pm
    Vornwend wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am boris-01.jpeg
    Most excellent.
    The difference between Boris and Starmer, the police decided that Boris’s broke his own rules and Starmer did not. Nanu, the more you post, the more you remind me of either a nut-job conspiracy theorist or a modern day William Joyce :lol:
    I seem to recall that legislation applies to all subjects? I don’t think you will be able to find a section in the Covid or any other legislation for that matter that states the rules only apply to those that make or pass the rules into law and nobody else.

    I also recall that Starmer and the Labour Party voted for the legislation HE also broke.
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    Post by sars » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm

    Nanu, That’s the point, regardless of your own conspiracy theories, Boris was charged and fined for breaking the rules of social gatherings during lockdown, whereas Starmer was investigated, but no charges were brought. He also stated that if he was charged he would resign.
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    Post by slick » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:09 pm

    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm Nanu, That’s the point, regardless of your own conspiracy theories, Boris was charged and fined for breaking the rules of social gatherings during lockdown, whereas Starmer was investigated, but no charges were brought. He also stated that if he was charged he would resign.
    OK Sars..........this is for you ...........who would you believe..........out of Boris........or The FIA? The 2021 and 22 WDC could hang on your answer :poke:
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    Post by sars » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:06 pm

    slick wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:09 pm
    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm Nanu, That’s the point, regardless of your own conspiracy theories, Boris was charged and fined for breaking the rules of social gatherings during lockdown, whereas Starmer was investigated, but no charges were brought. He also stated that if he was charged he would resign.
    OK Sars..........this is for you ...........who would you believe..........out of Boris........or The FIA? The 2021 and 22 WDC could hang on your answer :poke:
    I’m not sure that the above translated well from the thoughts in your head to the your actual post :D What has the 2021 or 2022 WDC have to do with Boris?

    and I trust neither of them, Boris says what he thinks you want to hear, regardless of what he believes, and the FIA are in business to make money and will say or do anything that promotes their business goals, just look at the overspend chaos completely self inflicted.
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    Post by enuff_zed » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:16 pm

    I think the saddest apart of this whole fiasco is that the Queen was dragged off her death bed to say cheerio to Boris and smile sweetly at Liz Truss.
    Shame they couldn't have left her alone.
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    Post by slick » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:28 pm

    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:06 pm
    slick wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:09 pm
    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm Nanu, That’s the point, regardless of your own conspiracy theories, Boris was charged and fined for breaking the rules of social gatherings during lockdown, whereas Starmer was investigated, but no charges were brought. He also stated that if he was charged he would resign.
    OK Sars..........this is for you ...........who would you believe..........out of Boris........or The FIA? The 2021 and 22 WDC could hang on your answer :poke:
    I’m not sure that the above translated well from the thoughts in your head to the your actual post :D What has the 2021 or 2022 WDC have to do with Boris?

    and I trust neither of them, Boris says what he thinks you want to hear, regardless of what he believes, and the FIA are in business to make money and will say or do anything that promotes their business goals, just look at the overspend chaos completely self inflicted.


    Lets leave the voices .......I mean the thoughts in my head out of this :lol:

    The connection between Boris and .the FIA is neither seem capable of the truth but of the two , I think The FIA have the thicker book or excuses
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    Post by Nanu » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:15 pm

    sars wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:27 pm fined for breaking the rules of social gatherings during lockdown, where as Starmer was investigated, but no charges were brought.
    With total politeness intended it is you that is missing the point, or perhaps me not making it properly.

    During Covid my job was advising local Authorities in my area and businesses, on Covid Compliance. On some occasions that included Police Forces and enforcement action. The point I was trying to make was Boris accepted a fine when he did not need to, as he had a defence. (Gatherings were permitted in work bubbles for essential work). He and Rishi were attending a cabinet meeting about Covid, which I presume you accept was essential work. What was not allowed was Carrie being there, for whatever reason, but for some reason she was not fined? (He also had another get out of which he was aware but chose not to take, in that Downing Street is part of the Crown Estates, which the Act did not cover. It only covered public and private places).

    Starmer was investigated as you say, and he did use the defence of essential work (He said in the MSM and in Parliament that he and the others, were campaigning in the local elections and the nearby Hartlepool by election) Durham Police mistakenly accepted this and made the announcement of NFA. I contacted the enquiry team and made them aware of the below and that they had made a mistake. They they said they agreed but they declined to reverse the decision after having already announced it. (Suspect out of embarrassment more than anything)

    I invite you to use the below link and scroll down to the Section headed "Campaigning Safely from 8 March" and I recall it's about the 10th or 11th para. One line however sums it up,

    "Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person".

    Starmer was guilty, should therefore resigned as he promised but escaped as a result of Durham Police not reading all the legislation.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... g-covid-19

    Covid legislation in the main was hurried and not the easiest piece of law to follow, but this was updated a year or so in and was a lot easier.
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    Post by MikeyH » Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:16 am

    Pondrew wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:27 pm
    enuff_zed wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:30 pm Better the devil you know???
    That seems exactly what the tory MPs are thinking. It's wrong, just wrong. You shouldn't allow a person who was kicked out for the things he did to just waltz back in because it's the easiest option.

    This is serious sh*t; our economy and reputation in the world financial markets are at stake here. Political wrangling doesn't normally affect each of us very much on a personal level. This time it really does.
    The problem for me is. I haven’t voted Conservative since Maggie went rogue, but if I don’t vote for them Starmer might get in. Then we are back to the dark ages. The Lib Dem’s have no chance and the Greens want us to all ride bicycles and eat vegetables. :headbang:
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    Post by Nanu » Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:30 pm

    Let’s face it, all parties want us riding bicycles and eating veg.

    The only difference is the Tories want us to do it by2050, Labour want it by 2030 and the others think it should have been done yesterday.

    Make the most of the next couple of years whatever happens.
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