Will the Z4 E85 become a classic?

Court1987 · Post by **Court1987** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:04 am

Will the Z4 E85 become a classic? Are they a good investment?

enuff_zed · Post by **enuff_zed** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:14 am

Already is. For the design and that unique shape, regardless of engine size of gearbox.

NS66 · Post by **NS66** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:32 am

anything will if you keep it long enough and numbers diminish.

Paul_RK · Post by **Paul_RK** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:55 pm

Traditionally the model/car become a classic after 25+ years ending of production, the last 85/86 was in 2008 , in 2033 i hope it will be classic, let's see

Post by **sp3ctre** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:59 pm

Depends on the definition of classic I expect... as with a lot of the BMW's the M variant may be classed as classic but the rest not... i.e. the E36 M3 is/was sought after but the E36 318 probably not.

veryverydarkblue · Post by **veryverydarkblue** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:28 pm

Court1987 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:04 am Will the Z4 E85 become a classic? Are they a good investment?

Yes to the first question. No to the second (with caveats)

A well timed MC purchase could see you with a healthy upside at some point. Everything else is likely to cost you much more to run that it’s ever going to appreciate. Most 2.0s will destined for the scrap heap/ parts cars when their engines go pop.

Court1987 · Post by **Court1987** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:00 pm

I'm looking at tracking one, restoring it then leaving in a garage for a few years.

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:11 pm

Err no

Number5 · Post by **Number5** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:22 pm

I hear & see so many people who tell me their car will be a classic one day and are keeping it, yet on inspection, they're not even up-together now, let alone in 5 -10 years time !

If you want to see a return from a Zed in 5-10 years time, I seriously think you need to have, or get hold of one of the less produced models (M Roadster, M Coupe or Alpina), rather than the more mass produced standard models. And, the lower the mileage the better. Plus it needs to be tip-top too.

You'll also need to garage or dry store it and tread the fine line of keeping the miles down, whilst keeping everything on the car ticking over, as sitting doesn't do a car any good in the long run. Every moving part needs to keep moving occasionally, otherwise it just seizes or squeaks !

...Just my opinon !

Scubaregs · Post by **Scubaregs** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:25 pm

Every owners club believes their cars will be classics.

Griffo46 · Post by **Griffo46** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:39 pm

I don’t think they’ll be classed as “Classic” by the normal definition as we know it. But, when governments really do crack down on combustion engines and crank up the battery powered cars, the likes of the 3.0si manuals will become desirable additions to peoples garages and club meets.

MikeyH · Post by **MikeyH** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:28 pm

Number5 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:22 pm I hear & see so many people who tell me their car will be a classic one day and are keeping it, yet on inspection, they're not even up-together now, let alone in 5 -10 years time !

If you want to see a return from a Zed in 5-10 years time, I seriously think you need to have, or get hold of one of the less produced models (M Roadster, M Coupe or Alpina), rather than the more mass produced standard models. And, the lower the mileage the better. Plus it needs to be tip-top too.

You'll also need to garage or dry store it and tread the fine line of keeping the miles down, whilst keeping everything on the car ticking over, as sitting doesn't do a car any good in the long run. Every moving part needs to keep moving occasionally, otherwise it just seizes or squeaks !

...Just my opinon !

Also my opinion.

low mileage MR, MC and Alpina will eventually become classic as they are rare but whats the point of having a car like that if you can't drive it when you want to. On the other hand buy one of the more ordinary ones and enjoy without the worry of losing money.

enuff_zed · Post by **enuff_zed** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:11 pm

See, everyone is going for the boring old, cardigan-wearing, it has to be this, that and the other.

For me there is a subtle difference:
Is it A classic?..................jury still out
Is it classic?.......................Yes!

Mr Tidy · Post by **Mr Tidy** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:21 pm

I voted "No" because I can't see them becoming "classics" in the foreseeable future, although Ms and Alpinas seem to be heading that way and 3.0Sis are getting close even if only based on rarity.

I'm sure eventually other models will head that way led by 3.0is and 2.5Sis but probably not for quite a while.

None of them makes sense as an investment though. I'd suggest buying the best you can find in your budget and just enjoying it!

smorris_12 · Post by **smorris_12** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:17 am

As said, apart from M's and Alpinas there's not much reason for a mass produced (if most enjoyable and stylish) BMW to become a classic. However, when I was buying my Z4 I noticed that older Z3s are more expensive for any given engine size. Maybe being retro E30/E36 is already a thing for nostalgia!

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