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Post by Pondrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:15 pm

Ole gits rule wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:46 pm I used to like the look of the TR7 when they were launched, not so much now, would prefer a X1/9 these days
Tricky decision Sean, I'll admit. British crap or Italian crap. :lol:

If it wasn't for the infamous Unions and labour strikes, the TR7 could have become a really good car. They had big plans for it going forward, but it never happened.

I am a child of the '70s and '80s so a piece of nostalgia as I get older fits the bill. Isn't that the reason why all 'modern classics' become popular, if they survived? The cars your dad never had, or did, and as children coveted.

When I was 8 or 9, my primary school teacher at the time (Mrs Douglas, I'll never forget her name), drove to school in a brown MGB V8. I thought she was a Goddess, just because of the car she drove. Nostalgia; what it's all about for me!

I owned a Mk3 Escort RS Turbo in 1988. I have seen really good examples for sale for £60k. Not because they are good cars, they're not, because people of our age who have the money want to re-live their youth.
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by IRD » Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:35 pm

Pondrew wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:15 pm
Ole gits rule wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:46 pm I used to like the look of the TR7 when they were launched, not so much now, would prefer a X1/9 these days
Tricky decision Sean, I'll admit. British crap or Italian crap. :lol:

If it wasn't for the infamous Unions and labour strikes, the TR7 could have become a really good car. They had big plans for it going forward, but it never happened.

I am a child of the '70s and '80s so a piece of nostalgia as I get older fits the bill. Isn't that the reason why all 'modern classics' become popular, if they survived? The cars your dad never had, or did, and as children coveted.

When I was 8 or 9, my primary school teacher at the time (Mrs Douglas, I'll never forget her name), drove to school in a brown MGB V8. I thought she was a Goddess, just because of the car she drove. Nostalgia; what it's all about for me!
Both of my wives were (one still is) Mrs Douglas. One was a primary school teacher in the 70s and drove a red MGB. At that time we couldn’t aspire to the V8 just the standard 1800cc. Mind you my uncle had the V8 and I used to drool over it. The handling was a bit suspect on them because of the extra weight of the V8 and he wrote it off at an MG Car Club sprint at Croft Autodrome.

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Post by Pondrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:57 pm

IRD wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:35 pm Both of my wives were (one still is) Mrs Douglas. One was a primary school teacher in the 70s and drove a red MGB. At that time we couldn’t aspire to the V8 just the standard 1800cc. Mind you my uncle had the V8 and I used to drool over it. The handling was a bit suspect on them because of the extra weight of the V8 and he wrote it off at an MG Car Club sprint at Croft Autodrome.
Thanks for the reply Iain (Ronald, Richard??) Douglas! :lol: :poke:

Handling and driving characteristics of these type of cars is no longer the point, though. I could buy a Dacia and it would handle (and be more reliable) than any car from the '80s. Being terrible is half of the attraction TBH. :)
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Post by IRD » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:13 pm

Pondrew wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:57 pm
IRD wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:35 pm Both of my wives were (one still is) Mrs Douglas. One was a primary school teacher in the 70s and drove a red MGB. At that time we couldn’t aspire to the V8 just the standard 1800cc. Mind you my uncle had the V8 and I used to drool over it. The handling was a bit suspect on them because of the extra weight of the V8 and he wrote it off at an MG Car Club sprint at Croft Autodrome.
Thanks for the reply Iain (Ronald, Richard??) Douglas! :lol: :poke:

Handling and driving characteristics of these type of cars is no longer the point, though. I could buy a Dacia and it would handle (and be more reliable) than any car from the '80s. Being terrible is half of the attraction TBH. :)
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Post by Pondrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:36 pm

IRD wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:13 pm She must be a saint.
I do keep referring to her as Simon.

I will freely admit I am an absolute nightmare; to live with and to deal with! :o
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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Post by IRD » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:04 pm

Pondrew wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:36 pm
IRD wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:13 pm She must be a saint.
I do keep referring to her as Simon.

I will freely admit I am an absolute nightmare; to live with and to deal with! :o
I think you need to up the strength of the tablets. My good lady thinks I am mad changing cars less than every two years. I have had over 70. But I can’t compete with you.😀😀😀

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Post by bigwinn » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:08 pm

Always ALWAYS wanted one of these

It’s going to be trouble but life is too short to drive boring cars

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Post by MikeyH » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:51 pm

I never liked the coupe version when it came out but the roadster looked nice but not a replacement for the TR6 in my mind. They we’re to early for their time but now look quite good to me. Some say they will start to increase in value. Get one while they are cheap Pondrew :thumbsup: :D
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Post by Pondrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:56 pm

bigwinn wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:08 pm lways ALWAYS wanted one of these

It’s going to be trouble but life is too short to drive boring cars

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Post by Pondrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:58 pm

MikeyH wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:51 pm Some say they will start to increase in value.
Some also said we would be driving hover cars by now. The TR7 has, unfortunately, been overlooked by the rush for modern 'classic' status. I doubt it will ever be so, but it's not about the money.
All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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E89 20i Now fully dried
Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
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Post by Ole gits rule » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:22 am

Pondrew wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:15 pm
Ole gits rule wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:46 pm I used to like the look of the TR7 when they were launched, not so much now, would prefer a X1/9 these days
Tricky decision Sean, I'll admit. British crap or Italian crap. :lol:

If it wasn't for the infamous Unions and labour strikes, the TR7 could have become a really good car. They had big plans for it going forward, but it never happened.

I am a child of the '70s and '80s so a piece of nostalgia as I get older fits the bill. Isn't that the reason why all 'modern classics' become popular, if they survived? The cars your dad never had, or did, and as children coveted.

When I was 8 or 9, my primary school teacher at the time (Mrs Douglas, I'll never forget her name), drove to school in a brown MGB V8. I thought she was a Goddess, just because of the car she drove. Nostalgia; what it's all about for me!

I owned a Mk3 Escort RS Turbo in 1988. I have seen really good examples for sale for £60k. Not because they are good cars, they're not, because people of our age who have the money want to re-live their youth.
Yes both different types of crap for certain, for me there is more chance of finding a half decent x1/9 and I wanted one as a youngster but could never afford one but of all the cars from that era I would still buy an alfa spider or an elan.

Mr Harris was my French teacher and he had an MGB in yellow, he always seemed like a renegade as he was pretty cool for a teacher.

I am also a child of the same era and if I had kept half the cars I had in the 80s I would be worth millions now, every description of Escort (Ford not the other kind Pondy & Scuba), XR3 / XR3i / RS1600i / RS Turbo a couple of XR2s / XR3i Convertible LTD / Capri / Mini Coopers & 1275 GT/ Astra GTE / Elan / Cav SRi / Cav GSI /205 Gti x2 / 306GTi / 306 cab / XR4i / Clio 16V x 2 / Clio Willims / Ren 19 16V / Ren 5 GT Turbo - these are just a few, had about 60 cars in total and would change every 3 or 4 months in fact the longest I have kept a car is an SLK at 24 months, the zed is getting there, its on 22 months right now which is good for me even now
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Post by BeeEmm » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:15 am

The trouble with the TR7 and the TR8 is that they followed the TR6. The design was changed so much from the earlier successful TR series that it was a design disaster. Trying to be modern at the time and getting it wrong. Porsche did a similar thing with the 929, didn't work out for them either. Add the fact that the British car manufacturing at the time was a joke, it was too easy for the Japanese to enter our car market and make people here realise that you don't have to put up with poor workmanship and design. OK the Datsun 120Y was exactly a stunner but it was reliable and relatively rust free.
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Post by Colin_E » Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:17 pm

Remember them being rallied. Roger Clark drove one in RAC Lombard back in late 70s and I remember my mate embarrassing himself trying to keep up with him between stages around Lockerbie / Jedburgh with little success. Sadly your pockets would need to be way deeper but by far and away the best looking rally car from that era had to be the Lancia Stratos. For years I dreamed of buying one until prices went silly.

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Post by Hilly30si » Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:53 pm

BeeEmm wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:15 am The trouble with the TR7 and the TR8 is that they followed the TR6. The design was changed so much from the earlier successful TR series that it was a design disaster. Trying to be modern at the time and getting it wrong. Porsche did a similar thing with the 929, didn't work out for them either. Add the fact that the British car manufacturing at the time was a joke, it was too easy for the Japanese to enter our car market and make people here realise that you don't have to put up with poor workmanship and design. OK the Datsun 120Y was exactly a stunner but it was reliable and relatively rust free.
The TR7 is making quite a comeback in Classic circles I have noticed a few more around at car meets. Give the TR4a and the 6 every time. I love mine with a passion and smile every time I take it out. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by B21 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:24 pm

Triumph GT6 for those wanting something more 'mature'..met my friends for lunch today..his 3 year restoration complete..fabulous condition..
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