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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:42 pm

I having a Dilemma, and it’s all your fault :poke:

Well, not everyone’s… but forum content is affecting my decision making :headbang:

I received my car back from my friends body shop on Monday night after a front end refresh. We’re talking top quality job here, bonnet stripped completely back to bare metal etc. the paint looks incredible, far better than it left the factory… so very, very happy on that score.

However, I’m now convinced that I should have the front bumper and Bonnet PPF’d and hear-in lies the problem. I’ve bought brand new cars in the past and never worried about stone chips before… but now I’m feeling a bit paranoid.

I also tend to let my head rule my heart, and my sensible side is saying - PPF is really bloody expensive, you’d be better off selling the car and buying something more expensive instead. This is compounded by the fact that I have a brand new set of KW coilovers, that I could also get my money back on and this would put my ‘newer’ car budget at a higher price point again.

The PPF is effectively ‘dead money’. If I have it done, but sell the car in future, I can’t see the car fetching much more for the outlay… I don’t like loosing money on cars

Anyone want to talk the sense OUT of me :rofl:
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Post by Scubaregs » Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:01 pm

I'd ceramic coat instead. Much less outlay than PPF although less protection granted, but it will make it far easier to keep clean.
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Post by Nanu » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:09 pm

Yep, ceramic is the way to go :thumbsup:
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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:10 pm

Ceramic coatings don’t really prevent stone chips… I don’t think?

If I pay for PPF I’ll probably ceramic coat it afterwards anyway though :thumbsup:

I’ve used the CarPro consumer coatings before to very good effect.
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Post by john-e89 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:18 pm

Keep it, PPF it, if nothing else you'll be able to look at it all the time with a fresh chip free bonnet. Also will help with resale price when the times comes. You'll be able to add a good £500 to the ask for the protection and looks. :thumbsup:
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Post by Zedebee » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:57 pm

I doubt you would be able to charge extra just because your car has PPF, but the real value is saving you the cost of another front end refresh down the line. Heaven only knows how much that cost you. The better decision (they are always better with hindsight) would have been to sell the car before the refresh, because you are unlikely to get much of that back either. Of course, if you are keeping the car, it’s all money well spent on making your P&J look/stay nice.
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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:29 pm

Zedebee wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:57 pm I doubt you would be able to charge extra just because your car has PPF, but the real value is saving you the cost of another front end refresh down the line. Heaven only knows how much that cost you. The better decision (they are always better with hindsight) would have been to sell the car before the refresh, because you are unlikely to get much of that back either. Of course, if you are keeping the car, it’s all money well spent on making your P&J look/stay nice.
It’s been done by a very good friend, so considerably below market rates for such work. With a wheel referb it would be one of the very best E89 30i’s available, virtually showroom. I think the paintwork would definitely impact the price I’d be able to achieve for the car in a positive way, but if I’d pay market rates then your 100% correct.

I told him I intended to keep the car, so he’s gone above and beyond, it’s stunning. I think I’d still be close to break-even on it in the current market :thumbsup:
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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:32 pm

john-e89 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:18 pm Keep it, PPF it, if nothing else you'll be able to look at it all the time with a fresh chip free bonnet. Also will help with resale price when the times comes. You'll be able to add a good £500 to the ask for the protection and looks. :thumbsup:
I’m putting some feelers out to see it if I can achieve a palatable price for the bonnet and front bumper / complete front end. Thanks John, this is the kind of ‘man maths / thinking’ I need to be convinced to adopt :rofl: :thumbsup:
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Post by Scubaregs » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:49 pm

Even PPF won't prevent all stone chips.
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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:04 pm

Scubaregs wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:49 pm Even PPF won't prevent all stone chips.
Granted, but I believe the self healing ones / higher end films do a pretty good job…. Obviously anything too big, heavy or fast is still likely to cause damage.
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Post by 1536Z4 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:18 pm

True-Blue wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:42 pm I also tend to let my head rule my heart, and my sensible side is saying - PPF is really bloody expensive, you’d be better off selling the car and buying something more expensive instead.
You would still be in the same position regarding protection and probably even more so as it is a more expensive car :wink:
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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:25 pm

1536Z4 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:18 pm
True-Blue wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:42 pm I also tend to let my head rule my heart, and my sensible side is saying - PPF is really bloody expensive, you’d be better off selling the car and buying something more expensive instead.
You would still be in the same position regarding protection and probably even more so as it is a more expensive car :wink:
There’s some more ‘man logic’ for me to digest, Hmmm :wink: :thumbsup:
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Post by Maria1 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:14 pm

Not really hijacking this but you are local to me so I was just wondering who your bodyshop was in case i need remedial work in the future.

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Post by True-Blue » Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:06 pm

Maria1 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:14 pm Not really hijacking this but you are local to me so I was just wondering who your bodyshop was in case i need remedial work in the future.
I’ll ask him if he’s happy for me to pass on his details, but he wouldn’t be doing and kind of forum discounts. He is incredibly busy, and only really does work for me because we’ve been friends for years. He’s not at the cheaper end of the market either.
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Post by Stash36 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:08 am

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