New PM then?

[Pondrew]

You know you would

I would!
"every hole's a goal".

[craig3.2]

Maggie Thatcher 2.0
Oh god help us all,as she has said she saw her as a role model

[Nanu]

Could be worse.

We could have Starmer propped up by the Lib Dems and Nicola Sturgeon

Yes it would be so much better if it was just Starmer, let’s be honest he’s a much better proposition than what we’ve got now, okay he’s not full of charisma, but look where that got you with Boris

do you honestly think if labour came into power, Starmer would remain as leader?

He would be deposed quicker than Boris and replaced with someone like Angela Raynor or a corbynista

[sars]

Could be worse.

We could have Starmer propped up by the Lib Dems and Nicola Sturgeon

Yes it would be so much better if it was just Starmer, let’s be honest he’s a much better proposition than what we’ve got now, okay he’s not full of charisma, but look where that got you with Boris

do you honestly think if labour came into power, Starmer would remain as leader?

He would be deposed quicker than Boris and replaced with someone like Angela Raynor or a corbynista

Given that the previous two conservative prime ministers were ousted by their own parties MP’s and that the Conservative party has a long history of dumping their governing leader, prey tell me who was the last labour prime minister to suffer this fate? History is really not on your side here, so stop the express/mail scare tactics

[Mr Tidy]

Given that the previous two conservative prime ministers were ousted by their own parties MP’s and that the Conservative party has a long history of dumping their governing leader, prey tell me who was the last labour prime minister to suffer this fate? History is really not on your side here, so stop the express/mail scare tactics

It tends to always work out that way though. When Tony gave Gordon his big chance that didn't go too well at the next election did it?

[rdm05z4]

So, you went from Boris to Natasha? You are Saying?

[Pondrew]

Given that the previous two conservative prime ministers were ousted by their own parties MP’s and that the Conservative party has a long history of dumping their governing leader, prey tell me who was the last labour prime minister to suffer this fate? History is really not on your side here, so stop the express/mail scare tactics

Different world, though, since that 'new labour' t*at (I can't say his name as I hate him so much). The media bring down PMs mid-term nowadays. The whole of Whitelhall is shite scared of the media. I'm surprised that Laura Kuenssberg isn't the new PM. She seems to have more power than all of them.

[Pondrew]

Maggie Thatcher 2.0
Oh god help us all,as she has said she saw her as a role model

Love her or loathe her, Maggie was the best PM by a country mile we have had in my life time. She was respected or feared by most world leaders. She gave millions of people a very cheap way of getting on the property ladder.....I won't go on....

[MikeyH]

Maggie Thatcher 2.0
Oh god help us all,as she has said she saw her as a role model

Love her or loathe her, Maggie was the best PM by a country mile we have had in my life time. She was respected or feared by most world leaders. She gave millions of people a very cheap way of getting on the property ladder.....I won't go on....

Yes I voted for her as she got us out of the continuous strikes and blackout problems but she lost the plot later on and had to go. Whats that they say about absolute power corrupts absolutely? It's happening in other parts of the world, for gods sake not here as well please.

[sars]

Maggie Thatcher 2.0
Oh god help us all,as she has said she saw her as a role model

Love her or loathe her, Maggie was the best PM by a country mile we have had in my life time. She was respected or feared by most world leaders. She gave millions of people a very cheap way of getting on the property ladder.....I won't go on....

Yes I voted for her as she got us out of the continuous strikes and blackout problems but she lost the plot later on and had to go. Whats that they say about absolute power corrupts absolutely? It's happening in other parts of the world, for gods sake not here as well please.

Thought I'd answer both at the same time, the difference between Thatcher and Blair (and I voted for both), Blair saw the writing on the wall after winning his third election, whereas Thatcher didn't. After ten years of power you're burnt out, have run out of ideas and jaded by power. Thatcher did much good for the country, but also did much harm, the decimation of our industry in favour of a service economy was criminal.

I get why people hate Blair, they believe he lied to Government and the public over WMD's in Iraq and thus the war, but were then happy to vote for Boris, even though they new he was a compulsive liar, go figure

Did Blair lie? People forget that the US Government supported Iraq after the Islamic revolution in Iran and the conflict thereafter, who do you think sold Iraq the WMD's in the first place, you think they had the infrastructure to produce them themselves.

[Pondrew]

Thatcher did much good for the country, but also did much harm, the decimation of our industry in favour of a service economy was criminal.

I get why people hate Blair, they believe he lied to Government and the public over WMD's in Iraq and thus the war,

Sorry don't agree with the first bit. For me, the unions had killed our industry way before Maggie came along. She just had to deal with it.

That's not why I hate the man (can't say his name, it makes me bilious). The fact that he and his cronies (Campbell mostly) made up a new type of political party just to get into power, bankrupted our Country even though the economy was strong, invented many 'stealth taxes' to pull the wool over the public's eyes, employed thousands of extra people in the public sector so it looked good.......I won't go on....

I used to quite like politics. I couldn't give two shites anymore.

[sars]

Tax Revenue at the end of the Blair era was 25.8% of GDP, GDP in 2007 was £1,931 Billion = £498 Billion and Government Debt was 40.7% = £785 Billion
Tax in 2019 (thus ignoring the borrowing due to COVID) was 24.9% of GDP, and GDP = £2,255 Billion = £561 Billion and Government Debt was 84.4% = £1,903 Billion

And then of course, NHS waiting lists are now at a 14 year high, and have been getting worse ever since the conservatives took power in 2010

So yeah what have the conservatives done for you lately, well since 2016 to be honest.

[Nanu]

They kept a lot of people alive by coming out of the EU and doing our own thing with vaccines. Oh and they supported thousands of businesses and millions of people during COVID through furlough. Not much really

[sars]

yet the highest death rate in Europe, but I will concede the furlough did help...
....the eat out to help out though
...and now we've got Rees-Smog in charge of Business, Energy and Industry
...and Brexit, that's going so well isn't it

Something that made me laugh last week was the brewery championed by Government for exports, was ruing the export burden as a result of "the deal" that Boris did, having seen sales plummet from £600K per year to just £2k.

[mr.tourette]

They've done a brilliant job with increasing food banks from 10 when they came into power to now over 3000, what a fantastic expansion programme

G7 country with more food banks than McDonalds..what an embarrassment