Train drivers striking over pay

[biZ4rreMids]

I’m currently hurtling towards London Euston at 125mph on a Avanti Pendolino train. Do I think Train Drivers deserve there salary and a decent pay rise? Absolutely I do, if they f*#k up its there life and the lives of the 250+ passengers at risk. Privatisation of the Rail Industry was the cause of significant salary increases in the industry and before privatisation pay was poor, that’s why they had fantastic final salary pensions and free rail travel.

[pvr]

I wouldn't knock the train drivers, good luck to them I say, get as much pay as you can and if that means striking so be it.



Tim.

You do realise the consequences of that? Every pay rise for them means the ticket price goes up, less money for safety as they call it, less money for investment and we all have to pay for their greed.

As for the suicide side - think for a moment what firemen see, what nurses see and what the police see on a daily basis or what the general public see during accidents and jumpers from motorway bridges.

[Smartbear]

I wouldn't knock the train drivers, good luck to them I say, get as much pay as you can and if that means striking so be it.



Tim.

You do realise the consequences of that? Every pay rise for them means the ticket price goes up, less money for safety as they call it, less money for investment and we all have to pay for their greed.

As for the suicide side - think for a moment what firemen see, what nurses see and what the police see on a daily basis or what the general public see during accidents and jumpers from motorway bridges.

I think you need to calm down, you’ll end up with ulcers & won’t enjoy your retirement otherwise
Rob

[TitanTim]

I wouldn't knock the train drivers, good luck to them I say, get as much pay as you can and if that means striking so be it.



Tim.

You do realise the consequences of that? Every pay rise for them means the ticket price goes up, less money for safety as they call it, less money for investment and we all have to pay for their greed.

As for the suicide side - think for a moment what firemen see, what nurses see and what the police see on a daily basis or what the general public see during accidents and jumpers from motorway bridges.

Would you say the average 48k salary of a train driver is a good wage?

End of the day whether it's rail fares, food, fuel everything is going up. I just don't blame workers wanting to keep pace with the standard of living.

Compared now to say a premier league footballer on obscene money for running round a pitch it puts it into perspective.

Tim.

[Scubaregs]

It is actually worse than I thought:

9 months training, 5.5 weeks holiday and the gold plated pension whilst working part time.

I shall suggest to my wife that she packs in nursing and learns to drive a train instead as there seems to be far more money in it

Will she be ok reversing a train into a parking space?

[Nanu]

It is actually worse than I thought:

9 months training, 5.5 weeks holiday and the gold plated pension whilst working part time.

I would have worked in the public sector for free, just for the pension TBH.
Too late for me, though, after working for 38 years and getting the lofty employer's contributions of zero. People who think the self-employed are all well off have no idea.
Luckily I'm not bitter!

I can confirm that working in the public sector has its advantages having had two careers spanning 47 years and currently on a third. Whilst I have always received less than a salary I could have earned in the private sector, these inflation proof pensions are a godsend and easily compensate for any reduced salary over the years.

These pensions are either not available to the private sector or are waaaaay to expensive. Looking forward to an annual rise this year of whatever the inflation rate is on 1 September, for the two which I am in receipt of. These pensions are rarely taken into account when public sector employees are looking for pay rises.

[Pondrew]

I can confirm that working in the public sector has its advantages having had two careers spanning 47 years and currently on a third. Whilst I have always received less than a salary I could have earned in the private sector, these inflation proof pensions are a godsend and easily compensate for any reduced salary over the years.

These pensions are either not available to the private sector or are waaaaay to expensive. Looking forward to an annual rise this year of whatever the inflation rate is on 1 September, for the two which I am in receipt of. These pensions are rarely taken into account when public sector employees are looking for pay rises.

Wow, Nanu. A civil servant who realises how lucky they are. You are one-of-a-kind, Sir.

Could you give ASLEF a call for us?

[Smartbear]

I can confirm that working in the public sector has its advantages having had two careers spanning 47 years and currently on a third. Whilst I have always received less than a salary I could have earned in the private sector, these inflation proof pensions are a godsend and easily compensate for any reduced salary over the years.

These pensions are either not available to the private sector or are waaaaay to expensive. Looking forward to an annual rise this year of whatever the inflation rate is on 1 September, for the two which I am in receipt of. These pensions are rarely taken into account when public sector employees are looking for pay rises.

Wow, Nanu. A civil servant who realises how lucky they are. You are one-of-a-kind, Sir.

Could you give ASLEF a call for us?

Although i wasn’t a train driver (i was a higher grade than those guys) i worked for London Underground for almost 2 decades & retired just after my 53rd birthday.
I couldn’t have retired at that age working anywhere else, i know how lucky i am.
Rob

[Scubaregs]

Could you give ASLEF a call for us?

The Lion from Narnia?

[Pondrew]

I couldn’t have retired at that age working anywhere else, i know how lucky i am.

Could you give ASLEF a call aswell then please Rob?

[Smartbear]

I couldn’t have retired at that age working anywhere else, i know how lucky i am.

Could you give ASLEF a call aswell then please Rob?

I was always an RMT man, those guys don’t like each other very much
Rob

[Pondrew]

The Lion from Narnia?

I had to Google that, as I never read the book, or saw the film. Too busy working unfortunately.

[MikeyH]

It is actually worse than I thought:

9 months training, 5.5 weeks holiday and the gold plated pension whilst working part time.

I would have worked in the public sector for free, just for the pension TBH.
Too late for me, though, after working for 38 years and getting the lofty employer's contributions of zero. People who think the self-employed are all well off have no idea.
Luckily I'm not bitter!

Ditto

[rdgreen]

Always interesting to see other perspectives. I worked in the car industry, in Engineering. Several people in my group received twice the usual pay for the same job. Almost without exception they were divorced as they spent so much time at work their family's no longer knew who they were. So, would it be correct to suggest that the levels of pay referred to is for a 'standard' (no overtime) working week? Doubtful. It's really easy to create division when it's inferred that someone is getting a 'free ride'. Look at the jealousy raised on this issue for example. 60k a year for a standard working week, good money.....if true.

[Ian J]

Will she be ok reversing a train into a parking space?