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Post by RobbiZ4 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:06 pm

Vonlipvig wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:42 pm Correction, A68C is the code. Think lack of sleep worrying has stopped the brain from working
Ups, that's another story.
This is a broken wire (of 6 on both sides) in the rear roof shell. Maybe in the upper bow or in the inner(!) lower side bow. Absolutely not in the visible area of the hydraulic harness.
BMW will have a lot of troubles to get the "damaged" roof out of the trunk. Manually driving it out of the trunk supported by the hydraulic pump is the easier way, but this is unknown to BMW.
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And where did you catch the former A696 Code? If that is also from your car, this second fault has to be fixed as well.
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Post by Vonlipvig » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:15 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:06 pm
Vonlipvig wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:42 pm
Vonlipvig wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:52 pm Code when connected is A696 which from looking on here, hall sensor issue. Got it up to BMW today and they're gonna stick it in the workshop till they can look at it. Think I'll make sure to have something to bite down on to hand
Correction, A68C is the code. Think lack of sleep worrying has stopped the brain from working
Ups, that's another story.
This is a broken wire (of 6 on both sides) in the rear roof shell. Maybe in the upper bow or in the inner(!) lower side bow. Absolutely not in the visible area of the hydraulic harness.
BMW will have a lot of troubles to get the "damaged" roof out of the trunk. Manually driving it out of the trunk supported by the hydraulic pump is the easier way, but this is unknown to BMW.

And where did you catch the former A696 Code? If that is also froim your car, this second fault has to be fixed as well.
The A696 was in a forum post after I searched the A68C, just looked at that and forgot I seached something else, my bad. Code was read on a friends snap on plug in. Broken wire was my worse fear as assuming that will be a right git for them to sort out :cry:
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:21 pm

Made an update to my former post.
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Post by Jace71 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:42 pm

I’ve the same thing with my e89 2014, the boot won’t open and windows won’t got up.
It is at Nottingham bmw now and they are saying they can’t see any codes and the boot is still closed. I told them this from the start…..

So does anyone know how to open the boot lol
This is most infuriating.

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Post by clarker63 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:06 pm

Jace71 wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:42 pm I’ve the same thing with my e89 2014, the boot won’t open and windows won’t got up.
It is at Nottingham bmw now and they are saying they can’t see any codes and the boot is still closed. I told them this from the start…..

So does anyone know how to open the boot lol
This is most infuriating.
You can open the boot with a foxwell tool ..so I assume BMW can do it!

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Post by Jace71 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:16 pm

Thank you, I read on here that it can do opened using a diagnostic tool so would have thought they would have opened it on the first time the run it.

Many thanks for your reply.

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Post by RobbiZ4 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:45 pm

clarker63 wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:06 pm You can open the boot with a foxwell tool ..so I assume BMW can do it!
AFAIK not in every fault situation.
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Post by Vonlipvig » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:23 pm

Car is back and roof sorted. Hall sensor roof shell 2. No shorts to ground or short circuit. Sensor replaced. They did notice oil sump gasket leaking, did not realise how big a job that is for a £30 part! Only used a litre of oil in the last year and 5k miles so might have to recover from the cost of the roof repair first
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Post by Smartbear » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:45 pm

Vonlipvig wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:23 pm Car is back and roof sorted. Hall sensor roof shell 2. No shorts to ground or short circuit. Sensor replaced. They did notice oil sump gasket leaking, did not realise how big a job that is for a £30 part! Only used a litre of oil in the last year and 5k miles so might have to recover from the cost of the roof repair first
How much was the roof repair?
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Post by Vonlipvig » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:51 pm

Smartbear wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:45 pm
How much was the roof repair?
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£430 :cry:
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Post by Scubaregs » Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:59 am

Vonlipvig wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:51 pm
Smartbear wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:45 pm
How much was the roof repair?
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£430 :cry:
WTF?

What did it say on the invoice for parts, labour etc?
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Post by Vonlipvig » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:56 am

Scubaregs wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:59 am
Vonlipvig wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:51 pm
Smartbear wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:45 pm
How much was the roof repair?
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£430 :cry:
WTF?

What did it say on the invoice for parts, labour etc?
Flat rate not broken down. I looked at the hall sensors and they're £250 at the moment on eBay. Factor in the roof was open and wouldn't budge, add on dealer tax, seems about there. Plus the added bonus that lots of places don't like looking at hardtop roof failures so a bit limited when you have nowhere to keep it inside.

They quoted rear discs and pads at £390. Picked them up at euro car parts for £250 and fitting them with a friendly mechanic tomorrow. Add in an hour's labour, maybe bit more at dealer and isn't far off
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Post by Ebeneezer » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:01 pm

Hall sensors available from BMW for a MINI for £13 each . You need to adapt the wiring (ask me how I know) especially if some idiot has super glued the connector in the past.
Most likely it will be the Micro switches on the hinges at the side of the boot space, again only £30.00 a pair from BMW but again you will likely need to adapt the wiring connector. Plug and socket connectors from eBay £4.50 for 10 pairs. Done my car this weekend for less than £80.00 for all parts.

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Post by Smartbear » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:15 am

Ebeneezer wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:01 pm Hall sensors available from BMW for a MINI for £13 each . You need to adapt the wiring (ask me how I know) especially if some idiot has super glued the connector in the past.
Most likely it will be the Micro switches on the hinges at the side of the boot space, again only £30.00 a pair from BMW but again you will likely need to adapt the wiring connector. Plug and socket connectors from eBay £4.50 for 10 pairs. Done my car this weekend for less than £80.00 for all parts.
Can you tell us which model mini uses the same hall sensors?
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Post by flybobbie » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:50 am

"super glued the connector in the past"

My cars first roof failure was due to a connector pulling apart, there is or was no locking barb, so i superglued it back together. No problem since.
I bought a sensor for £15 as a spare, you know for the life of me i don't know where i put it.

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