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Post by Doddsy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:26 pm

ronk wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:48 pm
Doddsy wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:07 pm Still in my possession as I live 200 mile from supplying dealer. Dealer is calling me tomorrow. Will inform everyone what happens as soon as I can
I hope you get things sorted :thumbsup:
Being transported down on Friday at my cost. Dealer wants to check it over before giving my money back. Cheeky sod. The videos and photos I have are comical
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Post by ronk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:35 pm

Was driving it to the seller not an option?

I’m thinking of being with the car when he is poking about/fixing/bodging the problem - then giving you the old cock and bull story.
You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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Post by Doddsy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:45 pm

ronk wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:35 pm Was driving it to the seller not an option?

I’m thinking of being with the car when he is poking about/fixing/bodging the problem - then giving you the old cock and bull story.
I’ve literally driven it 1 mile down the road put £50 of super unleaded in and parked it back up. It’s a death trap. Imagine if some poor lass had bought it or someone that doesn’t know what they are looking at that needed it as a daily and wrapped it around a tree
Now: Z4MC Titan Silver
Gone: E86 3.0Si Sport Titan Silver - M exhaust + bumper - Battery Relocated - Aero Front
E86 3.0Si Sport Silver Grey - Carbon Diffuser - Aero Kit - B/Box Mod - Storm MW V2
E85 2.5 Si Sport Titan Silver

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Post by Chippie » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm

Doddsy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:45 pm
ronk wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:35 pm Was driving it to the seller not an option?

I’m thinking of being with the car when he is poking about/fixing/bodging the problem - then giving you the old cock and bull story.
I’ve literally driven it 1 mile down the road put £50 of super unleaded in and parked it back up. It’s a death trap. Imagine if some poor lass had bought it or someone that doesn’t know what they are looking at that needed it as a daily and wrapped it around a tree
Please tell us more, why is it so bad to drive?
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Post by Argyll Andy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:27 pm

Chippie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm Please tell us more, why is it so bad to drive?
And is it another reportable MOT scam with retailer and testing station?

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    Post by Doddsy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:33 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:27 pm
    Chippie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm Please tell us more, why is it so bad to drive?
    And is it another reportable MOT scam with retailer and testing station?
    Need my money back before anything else is said
    Now: Z4MC Titan Silver
    Gone: E86 3.0Si Sport Titan Silver - M exhaust + bumper - Battery Relocated - Aero Front
    E86 3.0Si Sport Silver Grey - Carbon Diffuser - Aero Kit - B/Box Mod - Storm MW V2
    E85 2.5 Si Sport Titan Silver

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    Post by ronk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:01 pm

    Doddsy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:33 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:27 pm
    Chippie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm Please tell us more, why is it so bad to drive?
    And is it another reportable MOT scam with retailer and testing station?


    Need my money back before anything else is said
    Keep ya powder dry! :thumbsup:

    I understand how you must be feeling at this time -way back In the 80’s I was in a similar situation with a cut and shut Saab 99 turbo. My situation worked out any here‘s hoping yours will.👍🏻
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    So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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    Post by Argyll Andy » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:27 am

    Doddsy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:33 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:27 pm
    Chippie wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm Please tell us more, why is it so bad to drive?
    And is it another reportable MOT scam with retailer and testing station?
    Need my money back before anything else is said
    :thumbsup:

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      Post by Z450 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:17 am

      I assume from the post that it was a long distance sale and you did not see the car until it was delivered?

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      Post by Doddsy » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:29 am

      Z450 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:17 am I assume from the post that it was a long distance sale and you did not see the car until it was delivered?
      Indeed mate. I can live with a few things to sort myself as I used to work for Audi then Vertu for years. But had a proper look yesterday again and if I didn’t laugh I’d cry. ABS and traction control off completely (lights don’t even come on with ignition on). Brake pipes corroded and smothered in grease and wrapped in tape in some places. Front tyres bald. Exhaust blowing. Oil level indicator does not work when up to temperature and on level surface. Brakes squeal like mad. TPMS light on dash. Very suss brand new service book. Coolant leak from expansion tank. The list goes on
      Now: Z4MC Titan Silver
      Gone: E86 3.0Si Sport Titan Silver - M exhaust + bumper - Battery Relocated - Aero Front
      E86 3.0Si Sport Silver Grey - Carbon Diffuser - Aero Kit - B/Box Mod - Storm MW V2
      E85 2.5 Si Sport Titan Silver

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      Post by Z450 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:29 am

      Doddsy wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:29 am
      Z450 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:17 am I assume from the post that it was a long distance sale and you did not see the car until it was delivered?
      Indeed mate. I can live with a few things to sort myself as I used to work for Audi then Vertu for years. But had a proper look yesterday again and if I didn’t laugh I’d cry. ABS and traction control off completely (lights don’t even come on with ignition on). Brake pipes corroded and smothered in grease and wrapped in tape in some places. Front tyres bald. Exhaust blowing. Oil level indicator does not work when up to temperature and on level surface. Brakes squeal like mad. TPMS light on dash. Very suss brand new service book. Coolant leak from expansion tank. The list goes on


      Wow some interesting issues no ABS and traction light sounds very odd. Other issues can be expected, although buying from a dealer you would expect them to be rectified before sale, sounds like there has been no mechanical prep at all.

      My understanding is if the car has been sold via a long distance sale you are legally entitled to a full refund.

      I hope you get your money back and find a suitable Coupe 👍

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      Post by ronk » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:41 am

      How did you pay the sellers?
      You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
      So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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      Post by Doddsy » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:45 pm

      ronk wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:41 am How did you pay the sellers?
      Transferred money via bank transfer. Used my normal current account though
      Now: Z4MC Titan Silver
      Gone: E86 3.0Si Sport Titan Silver - M exhaust + bumper - Battery Relocated - Aero Front
      E86 3.0Si Sport Silver Grey - Carbon Diffuser - Aero Kit - B/Box Mod - Storm MW V2
      E85 2.5 Si Sport Titan Silver

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      Post by Pondrew » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:48 pm

      OP; if it was a distance sale, you have 14 days to reject the car whether it's good, bad or ugly. I don't see why the seller would want to inspect the car. It doesn't matter, you are legally entitled to reject the car within the 14 day period with no reason needed.

      The fact it is sub-standard does not affect distance selling regulations, that is another law entirely.

      https://www.themotorombudsman.org/distance-sales-faqs

      I read somewhere that if you do reject the car, for any reason within the 14 days, they are obliged to collect the car at their expense (although I can't remember where I saw this and can't find it now).

      edit; found something;
      https://www.lawgistics.co.uk/blog/legal ... ise%20sale
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      Post by Chippie » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:56 pm

      I think that the OP needs to rename the thread to
      “Sent back a Z” :D
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